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Post by slappy on Dec 17, 2010 9:16:52 GMT
End of the day,anyone knows, to do well in business,you can not be nice all the time,as I am sure KT is not!But to lose Chris is shameful,he should have been kept! For a while he was the heart of our club in the dark days,not good one bit,so whoever is to blame KT or MB,a bad call chaps. Its unfair to bring MB into this. This is a bust up between a dictator and a member of his staff. The truth is known by a few and may one day be made public, but dont put the blame on others at the club. I wish you lot would make your mind up about our Chairman. On one thread Kelvin is the best thing since sliced bread, he kept this club going after the profligacy of expenditure under Merry, should be kept on as chairman under a new owner. Next he is some dictator. If you mean he is a bullying boss, fair criticism. Perhaps he is simply trying to run a business without losing money, and has to make some tough business decisions whilst doing so, and loses a few friends. Replace him with someone else and watch the costs go up and the club go to the wall. --- No idea if that is what was behind CWWs departure. Could have been the kidney stones, a personal dislike with someone, a minor argument that got out of hand, having changes put upon his role at the club, or criticism he felt was out of order.
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Post by Up The Manor on Dec 17, 2010 10:23:52 GMT
End of the day,anyone knows, to do well in business,you can not be nice all the time,as I am sure KT is not!But to lose Chris is shameful,he should have been kept! For a while he was the heart of our club in the dark days,not good one bit,so whoever is to blame KT or MB,a bad call chaps. Its unfair to bring MB into this. This is a bust up between a dictator and a member of his staff. The truth is known by a few and may one day be made public, but dont put the blame on others at the club. A "dictator" ? that is a strong word,are you sure of that?
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Post by Marked Ox on Dec 17, 2010 12:47:21 GMT
Its unfair to bring MB into this. This is a bust up between a dictator and a member of his staff. The truth is known by a few and may one day be made public, but dont put the blame on others at the club. I wish you lot would make your mind up about our Chairman. On one thread Kelvin is the best thing since sliced bread, he kept this club going after the profligacy of expenditure under Merry, should be kept on as chairman under a new owner. Next he is some dictator. If you mean he is a bullying boss, fair criticism. Perhaps he is simply trying to run a business without losing money, and has to make some tough business decisions whilst doing so, and loses a few friends. Replace him with someone else and watch the costs go up and the club go to the wall. --- No idea if that is what was behind CWWs departure. Could have been the kidney stones, a personal dislike with someone, a minor argument that got out of hand, having changes put upon his role at the club, or criticism he felt was out of order. Agree. It could be any of a number of reasons (mostly mundane to everyone but him and his family) why he left but no, far better to accuse KT of being a dictator. This situation reminds me of the hullaboo surrounding the rumours of Beano going to Luton when CW and KT were getting it in the neck from some. Instead, Luton signed Jason Walker from Barrow as OUFC said no (unless Luton offered silly money).
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Post by charliesghost on Dec 17, 2010 12:58:28 GMT
You can **** right off. I'm entitled to post what I like without a **** like you telling me what I can and can't write. He might be a 'top bloke' and Oxford 'through and through' but my initial response was to someone who said it was, to quote, 'a disaster for Oxford United'. Not true. A blow to the administration department of Oxford United maybe but a 'disaster for Oxford United' ? Rubbish. This is the sort of tabloid exaggeration which creates problems when one doesn't exist. Oxford United is a happy camp, anyone can see that. A well run club but the programme editor leaves and all of a sudden the name 'Oxford United' is in turmoil ! Get over it. Oh can they? How can we see this? What evidence have you got to support your claims that OUFC is a happy place full of sunshine and smiles? Give me one reason as to why it can be clear to all that everyone who works at the club is happy and that there is no problem at all with the behaviour of senior management. The ONLY thing people can see from the outside is that BOTH members of the Communications department have walked out within sixty minutes of each other, making four members of staff who have walked out this season, while someone who has posted directly above my response to you has detailed how disappointed they have been with the running of the club based on personal experience, including a seemingly poor reflection of the Chairman. Yes - but all small, small stuff in the big picture of things. Jesus, do any of you remember Pat McGeough? Keith Cox? Nilu? Let's get real here: Kelvin Thomas is a good man, a capable MD of a business this size and a good communicator. Perfect? I'm sure not, as with most of us. But let's look at how the club was run before, and how it's run now and take a view on whether or not he's a good thing. He is. End of.
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Post by SuperOx on Dec 17, 2010 14:08:32 GMT
Did Chris Williams not have to serve a notice period?
Did he literally storm out of the premises after 'chucking in his cards'. Something big must have gone off in my view.
The web site has deteriorated already (sadly).
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Post by Gavin Archery on Dec 17, 2010 14:28:18 GMT
Did Chris Williams not have to serve a notice period? Did he literally storm out of the premises after 'chucking in his cards'. Something big must have gone off in my view. The web site has deteriorated already (sadly). The club probably marched him off the premises in case he wanted to write something detrimental, not that he would.
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Post by slappy on Dec 17, 2010 14:42:56 GMT
If you read the first letters of each sentence in the Barnet programme you will learn a lot.
Wilder's programme notes. W I N (really!)
Chris William's Off the Ball report . Y O U C A N S T I C K I T U P Y O U R B O L L O C K S (apologies to Roy Keane)
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Post by oxymoron on Dec 17, 2010 17:33:08 GMT
Well I guess their replies put Junior & paulayres firmly in the "worse chairman than Kassam" camp.
As far as "storming off" or "marched out", the press release states that "Chris is helping with the transition", so even if the reason for his leaving is unsurmoutable differences, it doesn't seem that the parting is completely acrimonious, but will we see him helping on Saturday I wonder....
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Post by peterdevo on Dec 17, 2010 17:49:20 GMT
wait and I am sure all will be revealed
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Post by tatabanya on Dec 17, 2010 18:08:18 GMT
Revealed by who?
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Post by Snake on Dec 17, 2010 20:50:43 GMT
If you read the first letters of each sentence in the Barnet programme you will learn a lot. Wilder's programme notes. W I N (really!)
Chris William's Off the Ball report . Y O U C A N S T I C K I T U P Y O U R B O L L O C K S (apologies to Roy Keane) Any similarities here to what Dave C. did in the prog when Malcolm Shotton was our manager? FFS “Staff Update” as a news headline on the official website draws more attention rather than deflecting adverse public opinion from Oxfordshire’s most read about company. Tsk..
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Post by ConcreteBob on Dec 17, 2010 20:52:43 GMT
If you read the first letters of each sentence in the Barnet programme you will learn a lot. Wilder's programme notes. W I N (really!)
Chris William's Off the Ball report . Y O U C A N S T I C K I T U P Y O U R B O L L O C K S (apologies to Roy Keane) Anyone got a scan of this?
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Dec 18, 2010 17:56:26 GMT
Whatever the reason he is a top bloke and he will be missed Agreed. An absolute gem of a human being.
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Post by charliedontsurf on Dec 18, 2010 21:19:09 GMT
Sometimes posting comments on a message board can do more harm to the person you think you're sticking up for. I must ask those of you that do know.. and from what I've read that's only one person...please resist from saying anything else until a later date
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Post by irishterrier on Dec 19, 2010 12:55:59 GMT
nope ! tell all! yet again some are clouded by the love of a certain little bully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! small man syndrome ..... thinks HE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB!!! you will see...
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Post by Long Live Clarkey on Dec 19, 2010 13:21:48 GMT
nope ! tell all! yet again some are clouded by the love of a certain little bully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! small man syndrome ..... thinks HE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB!!! you will see... You really don't have any idea do you? If so, don't go around saying things like that. It's ridiculous and disrespectful. If you do have some factual insider evidence to back this up, I apologise, but if you don't, just don't say things like that. If you were to say 'personally I think this is WIlder's fault' or whatever, okay, I can live with that, but you're treating it like you're in the know and it's fact, and you're also being disrespectful to probably the best manager we've had for some years and the fans who are grateful for everything he's done for the club. For the record, I don't know what went on, I'm not going to speculate. I'm very sad that the club's lost Chris, and I think he did a great job here. Good luck to him in the future.
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Post by irishterrier on Dec 19, 2010 14:51:25 GMT
bollocks! dont care ... ha!ha! ha!ha! ha! ha! ha! maybe i do know more than YOU! in fact i do! stop being so blind! i WILL say what i belive to be right ! never said he wasnt a GOOD manager ...just a bully!
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Post by yellowsubmarine on Dec 19, 2010 15:00:46 GMT
I've heard from someone I trust, and whose contacts at the club I know are genuine, that theres also some bad feelings within the playing and coaching staff. It's a shame that the good atmosphere at the club seems to be deteriorating after all the good times we have had with Kelvin as chairman
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Post by YellowHoods on Dec 19, 2010 15:08:00 GMT
Don't get all this hand-wringing about people falling out. Don't most people on here work in organisations where there is tension, disagreements, sackings and walk-outs? Why should OUFC be so different?
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Post by Long Live Clarkey on Dec 19, 2010 15:51:29 GMT
bollocks! dont care ... ha!ha! ha!ha! ha! ha! ha! maybe i do know more than YOU! in fact i do! stop being so blind! i WILL say what i belive to be right ! never said he wasnt a GOOD manager ...just a bully! Wow, I didn't expect quite such a childish response. Fine, if you know so much more than me and I'm 'blind', tell me your inside source. If it's just speculation, then you've proven my point for me, thank you.
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