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Post by junior1 on Dec 16, 2010 0:15:04 GMT
Didn't Chris have a few health problems of late? May be a reason? Junior, do you still frequent the official website forum? (If it still exists?). Didn't Chris used to post on there? Not since it changed format...
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Post by ConcreteBob on Dec 16, 2010 0:15:15 GMT
Always liked Chris Williams. A very nice chap and a true OUFC fan, a shame he's gone.
Oh and baldy - stick to what you know mate - talking about your beloved Manchester United.
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Post by paulayres on Dec 16, 2010 7:52:05 GMT
Why did he leave?? Mr Thomas may well hold the key to this question!!!!!!!
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Post by junior1 on Dec 16, 2010 8:02:12 GMT
Why did he leave?? Mr Thomas may well hold the key to this question!!!!!!! Reading The statement again it does not seem KT is overly bothered about him leaving. So , what do you know Paul?
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Post by sihath on Dec 16, 2010 8:28:07 GMT
I think Baldy has confused Club with Team.
A 30 goal stiker is missed by the club and team.
Chris Williams will be missed by the Club.
He does/did a very good job. More than the odd job man Baldy makes him sound like.
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Post by Up The Manor on Dec 16, 2010 9:18:04 GMT
tbh...I am not happy about this,he is a top lad,and as been said,did much more then he needed to in his job,very much a club man,so I would like to know why he as gone?! That little statement,on the OUFC web site,tells you nowt and in my book Chris is not going to be replaced very easy.
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Post by charliesghost on Dec 16, 2010 10:20:32 GMT
Baldy shut the f**k up. Chris was a top bloke and I'm sad to see him go. OUFc through and through. You aren't even an Oxford fan OK. Some perspective. In a club, the important personnel are the chairman/ CE, the manager, the first team coach, the centre back, the striker and so on. None of these are irreplaceable. Indeed, at every club - community or otherwise - one or more of them are being replaced on a fairly regular basis. The comms chap - and this from a PR man! - just is not central. PR is a service, and one for which there is a choice of plenty of capable people. This is especially so when Kelvin is a good communicator himself. So - Chris Williams leaves? It's a sign of how stable our club has become that anyone even considers it an issue at all. If there is evidence of disquiet behind the scenes, then fine, that's another matter, and one worthy of discussion. But I haven't seen any evidence adduce to support that theory. Other than Chris Williams leaving!
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Post by grumpygit on Dec 16, 2010 10:25:08 GMT
We've lost an excellent programme editor. His articles were always the funniest and well written of the programme. If these 'personal' reasons are anything to do with other members of staff, then the wrong person has left.
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Post by Nick Merry's Socks on Dec 16, 2010 11:01:21 GMT
Apparently he had a bust up with Kelvin and quit.
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Post by bicesterox on Dec 16, 2010 11:12:52 GMT
Always found Chris helpful, good bloke
He also managed to secure me & 3 others [1 his cousin I think] tickets for the 3-2 win at Luton when we were banned in 1987, and that was a long long time before he was involved. This was thanks to his postal adress I think.
Chris - Whatever your reasons for leaving - good luck with whatever you do next, and thanks for what you've done for OUFC.
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Post by risdon on Dec 16, 2010 11:14:14 GMT
Apparently he had a bust up with Kelvin and quit. I have heard the same. Also been told that Ryan Bird (an hour after Chris Williams), Lindsay Davis (earlier this month) and Dawn from the ticket office (September) all left because of the way Kelvin treats staff. I really do hope that this isn't the case, but I will say that for someone who has based 90% of their time at the club on positive PR spin and publicity, the press officer and communications manager is a very vital role in the world of Kelvin Thomas. To have lost the manager and assistant in that department in a single day suggests something has gone wrong.
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Post by Long John Silver on Dec 16, 2010 11:28:39 GMT
Apparently he had a bust up with Kelvin and quit. I have heard the same. Also been told that Ryan Bird (an hour after Chris Williams), Lindsay Davis (earlier this month) and Dawn from the ticket office (September) all left because of the way Kelvin treats staff. I really do hope that this isn't the case, but I will say that for someone who has based 90% of their time at the club on positive PR spin and publicity, the press officer and communications manager is a very vital role in the world of Kelvin Thomas. To have lost the manager and assistant in that department in a single day suggests something has gone wrong. A post on the RageOnline site said that KT is in the US at the moment... they must be wrong.
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Post by berliner on Dec 16, 2010 11:33:18 GMT
Anyone remember the article from Chris from after we went down to the Conference...his finest hour IMHO.
Good luck Chris!
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Post by Nick Merry's Socks on Dec 16, 2010 12:00:49 GMT
Just because Kelvin is out of the country does not mean he is not talking to staff. Ridson you are right apart from on Lindsay as that was apparently a bust up with Wilder.
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Post by YellowJ on Dec 16, 2010 12:34:35 GMT
I'm sorry to see Chris go. He always appears to be someone who loved the club and his job with a passion. I always enjoyed his articles in the programme, they always brought a smile to my face. Especially his away trips with Gav.
I hope Kelvin Thomas isn't treating the staff with disdain, that style of management went out with the unions.
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Post by peterdevo on Dec 16, 2010 12:42:19 GMT
I wish Chris all the best for the future and hope that he does not have health problems as mentioned earlier. I t would be disappointing if the other staff walked out because they were disappointed with Kelvin's attitude. Hopefully there is another valid reason
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Post by Potters Right Boot on Dec 16, 2010 12:52:36 GMT
Fair to say that Chris did a good job and was an excellent link man for 12th Man and OxVox related projects. A down to earth bloke with a nice sense of humour.
He 'got' what we were doing, hope his replacement does.
Good luck in whatever you do Chris.
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Post by baldy on Dec 16, 2010 13:16:13 GMT
Baldy shut the f**k up. Chris was a top bloke and I'm sad to see him go. OUFc through and through. You aren't even an Oxford fan You can **** right off. I'm entitled to post what I like without a **** like you telling me what I can and can't write. He might be a 'top bloke' and Oxford 'through and through' but my initial response was to someone who said it was, to quote, 'a disaster for Oxford United'. Not true. A blow to the administration department of Oxford United maybe but a 'disaster for Oxford United' ? Rubbish. This is the sort of tabloid exaggeration which creates problems when one doesn't exist. Oxford United is a happy camp, anyone can see that. A well run club but the programme editor leaves and all of a sudden the name 'Oxford United' is in turmoil ! Get over it.
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Post by The New Matt Murphy on Dec 16, 2010 13:44:58 GMT
Apparently he had a bust up with Kelvin and quit. I have heard the same. Also been told that Ryan Bird (an hour after Chris Williams), Lindsay Davis (earlier this month) and Dawn from the ticket office (September) all left because of the way Kelvin treats staff.I really do hope that this isn't the case, but I will say that for someone who has based 90% of their time at the club on positive PR spin and publicity, the press officer and communications manager is a very vital role in the world of Kelvin Thomas. To have lost the manager and assistant in that department in a single day suggests something has gone wrong. I'm not so convinced that some of the staff at the club are as nicey-nicey as they'd have you believe, Chris Thomas being one of the exceptions. If the speculative reasons behind Chris's departure are accurate, then I'd be very disappointed as it's clear how well respected he is by everyone who has had any dealings with him in relation to OUFC. I have had reason to speak to KT on a personal level about members of the club's workforce in the past. It wouldn't be right to go into too much detail but essentially I initially met with KT about scouting shortly after KT became chairman. I'd previously scouted for OUFC on a voluntary basis and had several negative experiences with staff and the way scouting was run so I was keen to find out if he would take my concerns into consideration, which on the face of it, he did. I was invited to a scout's meeting (that never materialised) to discuss my experiences and my ideas for improving the scouting system. (At the time, the club had no way of even recording which young players they'd watched! Not even a spreadsheet. To my knowledge, this is still the case.) During my meeting with KT I expressed concerns I had about a member of staff in particular, and he said that he's address it, but that I'd need to continue liaising with him. KT appeased me enough to encourage me to continue, which I attempted to do. After countless failures to show up, assist me in any way and generally even acknowledge my existence, I decided to write a letter outlining my grievances to KT as I felt the situation hadn't improved despite his assurances to address the matter, and that I felt extremely disappointed that the high standards I felt KT was operating to were not equalled by certain staff. KT assured me in writing that he would launch an investigation into matters and said he'd be in touch in the near future to invite me to a meeting with himself and Simon Lenegan to clear things up. I never heard another thing from him again. Now, I'm not saying that anyone should have been reprimanded for their actions (although I've left out the most serious aspects of their behaviour) but I would have appreciated KT following through with his promises he made to me in at least investigating things further. It is also interesting to note that the member of staff in question is still at the club. It feels like there is a staff clique at the club:- if you're in with the old boys' network (which I suspect Chris Williams wasn't) then you'll be fine. I don't feel like my grievances were taken at all seriously, and in taking no action at all, KT is knowingly supporting extremely poor working practise. Anyone had any similar experiences?
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Post by risdon on Dec 16, 2010 15:01:16 GMT
Baldy shut the f**k up. Chris was a top bloke and I'm sad to see him go. OUFc through and through. You aren't even an Oxford fan You can **** right off. I'm entitled to post what I like without a **** like you telling me what I can and can't write. He might be a 'top bloke' and Oxford 'through and through' but my initial response was to someone who said it was, to quote, 'a disaster for Oxford United'. Not true. A blow to the administration department of Oxford United maybe but a 'disaster for Oxford United' ? Rubbish. This is the sort of tabloid exaggeration which creates problems when one doesn't exist. Oxford United is a happy camp, anyone can see that. A well run club but the programme editor leaves and all of a sudden the name 'Oxford United' is in turmoil ! Get over it. Oh can they? How can we see this? What evidence have you got to support your claims that OUFC is a happy place full of sunshine and smiles? Give me one reason as to why it can be clear to all that everyone who works at the club is happy and that there is no problem at all with the behaviour of senior management. The ONLY thing people can see from the outside is that BOTH members of the Communications department have walked out within sixty minutes of each other, making four members of staff who have walked out this season, while someone who has posted directly above my response to you has detailed how disappointed they have been with the running of the club based on personal experience, including a seemingly poor reflection of the Chairman.
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