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Post by tatabanya on Jul 30, 2010 9:01:53 GMT
Rumour stemminmg from the ever reliable londonroader in the matches section that another striker may be brought in at Jack's expense. Anybody else heard anything?
Would be a case of be careful what you wish for in my eyes if true, I have been saying how much I think we need one more body up top but certainly don't want to see Midson leave. People have to remember how it was his introduction back in the team which saw us bounce back from the blip. I think that playing in the Beano role Jack would score goals, but his link-up play is crucial in the 433 system.
So anything got any info on the rumour?
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Post by didcotox on Jul 30, 2010 10:47:17 GMT
I'd be very disppointed to see Midson leave before the start of the season. If come January, he's not playing then it's a different story.
Goal scorers we have Constable, Green, Potter, Cole and Midson and a youngster as back up. I don't think we need another striker personally.
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Post by yelloexile on Jul 30, 2010 11:20:52 GMT
I'd be very disppointed to see Midson leave before the start of the season. If come January, he's not playing then it's a different story. Goal scorers we have Constable, Green, Potter, Cole and Midson and a youngster as back up. I don't think we need another striker personally. All Beano needs is another injury, and who else in that list would give you confidence to fill the gap? A bit dramatic, but I honestly think that with our current squad, lose Beano and we'd lose the chance of playoffs this year.
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Post by quarrygold on Jul 30, 2010 11:28:08 GMT
In my view if Wilder can get hold of someone with a bit more potency it could be a good move.
We are operating on a controlled budget so it could very well be the case that its a one in one out policy.
I like Midson but only see him as a 10 goal a season player while Beano is in the side.
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Post by The Fence End on Jul 30, 2010 11:29:59 GMT
10 goals in League 2 from Midson? That may be optimistic.
To be fair to him last season was his first as a pro so maybe he'll be better this season.
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Post by HKYellow on Jul 30, 2010 11:35:47 GMT
Midson only got 18 starts last year. I do think he has goals in him and playing up front getting 30 starts would chip in with over 10 goals
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Post by luckyeddie on Jul 30, 2010 12:18:06 GMT
Too soon for this sort of activity we havent even kicked off in anger yet !... we need all the players on board for the start of the season , as others have mentioned our recovery last year coincided with Jacks return .
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Post by Agadoo on Jul 30, 2010 12:47:12 GMT
Midson is not a clinical or natural goalscorer. Whatever his other attributes, he doesn't score enough and I personally don't think he has enough about him to succeed as this level. Glad to be proven wrong
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Post by 'Beav' on Jul 30, 2010 12:53:23 GMT
Midson is not a clinical or natural goalscorer. Whatever his other attributes, he doesn't score enough and I personally don't think he has enough about him to succeed as this level. Glad to be proven wrong How can you say that when you've only seen him twice? He is apparently the best finisher according to Beano and Wilder. (Don't quote me on that)
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Post by hht on Jul 30, 2010 13:24:04 GMT
I don't dispute who is or isn't the best finisher at the club. However that alone does not mean you will score goals. Beano can have a shocking game with few chances and he will bang one (or sometimes 2) in anyway. Yes it would be interesting to see if Midson started every game in Beano's position would he do better, who knows but frankly beano is feared and respected due to his letahlity and overall way he goes about it. I prefer to have that than someone who is unproven for us.
If Jack wants to be a big goal scorer and push for a starting place weeek in week out then every chance he gets he needs to take it whether it be cup reserve or whatever.
If we got in a decent replacement I wouldnt question this decision however if its shipping him out for an unproven player than perhaps just stick with Midson and hope.
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Post by ed on Jul 30, 2010 13:37:45 GMT
I'd be very disppointed to see Midson leave before the start of the season. If come January, he's not playing then it's a different story. Goal scorers we have Constable, Green, Potter, Cole and Midson and a youngster as back up. I don't think we need another striker personally. All Beano needs is another injury, and who else in that list would give you confidence to fill the gap? A bit dramatic, but I honestly think that with our current squad, lose Beano and we'd lose the chance of playoffs this year. not dramatic at all. just common sense. if beano was out for a prolonged period i don't think we'd make the top 10. i must also say i don't understand the reluctance of some to admit we need another striker. i think people fail to spot that we need another guy to lead the line. at the mo beano does that job. but green, cole, potter, deering can't fulfil that role. midson could, but it ain't his game. another aggressive, powerful striker please wilder
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Post by Agadoo on Jul 30, 2010 14:13:21 GMT
I don't dispute who is or isn't the best finisher at the club. However that alone does not mean you will score goals. Beano can have a shocking game with few chances and he will bang one (or sometimes 2) in anyway. Yes it would be interesting to see if Midson started every game in Beano's position would he do better, who knows but frankly beano is feared and respected due to his letahlity and overall way he goes about it. I prefer to have that than someone who is unproven for us. If Jack wants to be a big goal scorer and push for a starting place weeek in week out then every chance he gets he needs to take it whether it be cup reserve or whatever. If we got in a decent replacement I wouldnt question this decision however if its shipping him out for an unproven player than perhaps just stick with Midson and hope. I think we can safely say if you put Midson in Beano's role he wouldn't score nearly enough goals. We don't need to play him there to come to that conclusion, it's already a known fact....
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Post by London Rd to SSU on Jul 30, 2010 14:48:42 GMT
great first touch and clever player but end product if often dissapointing,needs to play in the centre of the front 3,not quick enough or have enough tricks to play wide to the same affect as greeny.
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Post by baldy on Jul 30, 2010 14:48:57 GMT
Regarding Midson it depends on how we plan to set up. If we are to persevere with the 433 with one striker centrally and the other two wider then I'd say Midson is absolutely vital. He's our biggest threat aerially and he also possesses good touch and vision. We play that ball right to left across the pitch loads and its no good having a midget out there if we stick with it.
My game plan for this coming season would be to use Midson wide left and hit him as much as possible and feed on his knock downs. Those opening two goals at Wembley are what we're about and Midson is a vital component of that style.
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Post by Agadoo on Jul 30, 2010 15:03:52 GMT
Regarding Midson it depends on how we plan to set up. If we are to persevere with the 433 with one striker centrally and the other two wider then I'd say Midson is absolutely vital. He's our biggest threat aerially and he also possesses good touch and vision. We play that ball right to left across the pitch loads and its no good having a midget out there if we stick with it. My game plan for this coming season would be to use Midson wide left and hit him as much as possible and feed on his knock downs. Those opening two goals at Wembley are what we're about and Midson is a vital component of that style. True but don't we want to move away from conference-esque style and become a true footballing side?
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Post by slappy on Jul 30, 2010 15:13:35 GMT
On his website, it seems like he is still keeping up the tennis coaching - perhaps as a fall back in case he has to go back to the BSP and part-time? Or perhaps he just has spare time after football training.
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Post by chris1986 on Jul 30, 2010 15:21:08 GMT
The fact we have a reserve team now should help Midson, he's never got going for us with goalscoring but he is well capable of getting goals. Maybe a run out in the reserves finding the back of the net regularly is all he needs. The Chip against Yeovil in the cup showed he can finish. I'd like to see him stay.
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Post by ed on Jul 30, 2010 15:44:00 GMT
midson's a decent player. perfectly capable of doing ok in lge 2
what he isn't is a goalscorer.
he's a link man. he plays others in. or makes unselfish runs
he's a bit like johnny byrne in his days with us, but of course absolutely nowhere near as good.
as part of a 3 with green and beano, i'm happy we've got him
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Post by baldy on Jul 30, 2010 16:18:49 GMT
Regarding Midson it depends on how we plan to set up. If we are to persevere with the 433 with one striker centrally and the other two wider then I'd say Midson is absolutely vital. He's our biggest threat aerially and he also possesses good touch and vision. We play that ball right to left across the pitch loads and its no good having a midget out there if we stick with it. My game plan for this coming season would be to use Midson wide left and hit him as much as possible and feed on his knock downs. Those opening two goals at Wembley are what we're about and Midson is a vital component of that style. True but don't we want to move away from conference-esque style and become a true footballing side? Not really, no. Why move away from a tried and trusted method ? Exactly what football do you want us to be playing at this level ? We do not possess forwards with sublime touch, few do in League 2, so you need to play to the strengths of the players at your disposal. Wilder would be deemed some sort of lunatic to alter our style to football for the purist when we have the king of all battering rams leading our line. Nothing, to me, sums Beano and our approach up better than that second at Wembley. Scrapping for possession, siezing the loose ball and powering it home. We will destroy teams in League 2 with this approach, turn all airy fairy and start trying to be fancy dans and we'll get steamrollered.
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Post by druid on Jul 30, 2010 17:06:04 GMT
Rumour stemminmg from the ever reliable londonroader in the matches section that another striker may be brought in at Jack's expense. Anybody else heard anything? Would be a case of be careful what you wish for in my eyes if true, I have been saying how much I think we need one more body up top but certainly don't want to see Midson leave. People have to remember how it was his introduction back in the team which saw us bounce back from the blip. I think that playing in the Beano role Jack would score goals, but his link-up play is crucial in the 433 system. So anything got any info on the rumour? I wish we could swap him for Brodie.
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