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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 14, 2010 16:40:05 GMT
No, Kid you're not being negative ( ok, that's a double negative!) Going by the past, that's being a realist. Apart from the 'Cuddy' thread, I'm looking at the future. We will get a form of terracing again, I promise you! I know it might seem a strange comparison, but think of the Berlin wall. They got over that obstacle in the end - through the will of the masses. Thanks sarge. The point is.....never give up hoping! nice one Cuddy ;D |
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Post by South Oxfords Border Patrol on Oct 14, 2010 17:33:49 GMT
Part of me is now slowly thinking that I may be against this. However thats only due to the fact i'm 5"4. What chance will I have to see? I'll stand at the front - thats fine, but all the singers will want to be near the back right? I don't really wanna be left out because of my height.  Theres a family stand for kids  |
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 14, 2010 18:48:41 GMT
Part of me is now slowly thinking that I may be against this. However thats only due to the fact i'm 5"4. What chance will I have to see? I'll stand at the front - thats fine, but all the singers will want to be near the back right? I don't really wanna be left out because of my height. Theres a family stand for kids You'll find that in a main stand, when standing, most people would sing in it. |
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Post by 'Beav' on Oct 14, 2010 23:13:39 GMT
Part of me is now slowly thinking that I may be against this. However thats only due to the fact i'm 5"4. What chance will I have to see? I'll stand at the front - thats fine, but all the singers will want to be near the back right? I don't really wanna be left out because of my height. Theres a family stand for kids Maybe we should have all the kids in there then. I'll take my (student) season ticket to the front of the terrace! |
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Post by sam1985 on Oct 15, 2010 16:38:12 GMT
Yes x1000000
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Post by sam1985 on Oct 15, 2010 17:05:42 GMT
How about a national stand at football day? Where at every ground in the country, for the first 10 minutes of the game, no one sits down to show their support for a return to terracing? This is the sort of thing that needs to be done. |
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Post by bananaman on Oct 15, 2010 18:20:22 GMT
Yes please!!!
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Post by TC on Oct 15, 2010 18:44:10 GMT
It's simple. When I come with my seven year old daughter I'll exchange my season ticket for a seat in the South Stand and when I don't I'll stand on the terrace. Same as I do now with the Ox Mail stand. Let those who want to stand, stand when they want to and those who want to sit, sit when they want to. Simple, treat people like adults and let them make their own decisions.
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Post by one trick Raponi on Oct 15, 2010 20:48:26 GMT
This week I've joined the FSF, read a lot of their safe standing literature, contacted them about what we can do at starting a safe standing campaign at OUFC, got a couple of encouraging emails back in response, contacted OxVox about getting involved in the campagin, passed on details on how OxVox can be affiliated with the FSF and the benefits this could give OxVox in return.
Talk is cheap but I really want to push on with this.
Next week I'll try and speak to or get some answers by email from Chris Nash, FSF's safe standing campaign co-ordinator, about his experience of getting a campaign started, the chances, for example, of us changing the ground regulations to allow standing areas in our ground and starting up a longer term campaign to get safe standing areas on the agenda for the 4th stand.
It would be great if OxVox can set up a survey of their members on their views of bringing some safe standing back at OUFC. That would be a good starting point.
OxVox should be the focal point for any campaign to bring safe standing back to OUFC imo. I'll wait and see what their response is to this.
All fans wanting a return to safe standing at OUFC should join the FSF. It's free and only an email away. Their support and advice in any campaign we can get up and running with will be key.
When we know more about how we can go about this we should talk to the club and see what we can work out together.
I think bringing safe standing back to OUFC is key to the long term success of this club, help bring the atmosphere back at home and will make following this club even more enjoyable.
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 15, 2010 21:28:13 GMT
This week I've joined the FSF, read a lot of their safe standing literature, contacted them about what we can do at starting a safe standing campaign at OUFC, got a couple of encouraging emails back in response, contacted OxVox about getting involved in the campagin, passed on details on how OxVox can be affiliated with the FSF and the benefits this could give OxVox in return. Talk is cheap but I really want to push on with this. Next week I'll try and speak to or get some answers by email from Chris Nash, FSF's safe standing campaign co-ordinator, about his experience of getting a campaign started, the chances, for example, of us changing the ground regulations to allow standing areas in our ground and starting up a longer term campaign to get safe standing areas on the agenda for the 4th stand. It would be great if OxVox can set up a survey of their members on their views of bringing some safe standing back at OUFC. That would be a good starting point. OxVox should be the focal point for any campaign to bring safe standing back to OUFC imo. I'll wait and see what their response is to this. All fans wanting a return to safe standing at OUFC should join the FSF. It's free and only an email away. Their support and advice in any campaign we can get up and running with will be key. When we know more about how we can go about this we should talk to the club and see what we can work out together. I think bringing safe standing back to OUFC is key to the long term success of this club, help bring the atmosphere back at home and will make following this club even more enjoyable. good on ya One trick  -lets hope Ox Vox listen and act too |
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Post by hairy on Oct 16, 2010 10:00:58 GMT
Would be good to hear what Ox vox's position is on a return to standing, is it is a subject they have never given an opionion on before? Also suprised they are not already affilliated with FSF, bit of an oversight that. Agree with one trick thats its right to push on with the standing issue, especially while we are all talking about it.
If OxVox show no interest in it we should look to start our own single issue organisation to bring back standing, its not going to happen unless we get active beyond this forum is it.
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 16, 2010 12:52:34 GMT
Would be good to hear what Ox vox's position is on a return to standing, is it is a subject they have never given an opionion on before? Also suprised they are not already affilliated with FSF, bit of an oversight that. Agree with one trick thats its right to push on with the standing issue, especially while we are all talking about it. If OxVox show no interest in it we should look to start our own single issue organisation to bring back standing, its not going to happen unless we get active beyond this forum is it. Our aim (and mine is) is to get the whole country behind this. You go to places like morecambe and can stand and yet here we are forced to sit. Some form of discrimination isn't it. A few years back, Steven's itch were refused permission to join the league, because their ground wasn't big or good enough. Do they still have standing spaces. Why can't we then?  |
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Post by hairy on Oct 16, 2010 13:29:21 GMT
Would be good to hear what Ox vox's position is on a return to standing, is it is a subject they have never given an opionion on before? Also suprised they are not already affilliated with FSF, bit of an oversight that. Agree with one trick thats its right to push on with the standing issue, especially while we are all talking about it. If OxVox show no interest in it we should look to start our own single issue organisation to bring back standing, its not going to happen unless we get active beyond this forum is it. Our aim (and mine is) is to get the whole country behind this. You go to places like morecambe and can stand and yet here we are forced to sit. Some form of discrimination isn't it. A few years back, Steven's itch were refused permission to join the league, because their ground wasn't big or good enough. Do they still have standing spaces. Why can't we then? Agree with you Dave about the idiocy of a rule that bans us from standing yet allows other clubs in our division (and above) to have terracing. While its fine to be part of a bigger national movement to bring back terracing, and thats an aim that i support (joined the FSF this morning), I feel that we should stay focused on our club. With our situation (the open end) at our ground, we could be the first club to go from an all seater stadium to a ground with a standing option. This would surely help any national campaign by creating a precedent for other fans to cite and other clubs to follow. |
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Post by Yellowbrains on Oct 16, 2010 14:21:59 GMT
The trouble is that we don't own our own stadium and won't do for at least another two years. Then there's the issue of the fourth stand and the fact that we won't need one for a while and that we probably won't be able to afford to build one for even longer! This could be a very long battle before us.
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Post by hairy on Oct 16, 2010 14:34:01 GMT
I know with us not owning the stadium this all seems a long way in the future but surely the club has to buy the ground as soon as it can, giving kassam £500,000 a year cant continue forever. The thought of playing in that ground with just 3 sides for the next twenty years is f**king depressing, maybe we could get the club to promise to build a terrace at the open end on buying the ground, could work out cheaper than seated stand?
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Post by one trick Raponi on Oct 16, 2010 15:06:38 GMT
Long battles are still worth fighting. There's a whole range of possibilities that could happen.
1) The ground regulations set down by the FL could be changed to allow standing in certain areas of our all-seater ground.
2) We don't necessarily have to wait for a 4th stand before we see any terracing. Why not try and campaign for converting the OM to a safe terrace?
3) the 4th stand might be a long way off but we've at least got to make a really strong case for having it built, whenever it is, as a safe terrace.
It's going to take time, lots of effort, lots of determination, and a lot of negotiating but the opportunity is there to do it.
One thing's for sure. We'll never have any terracing at our ground unless we campaign for it.
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Post by hairy on Oct 16, 2010 15:52:14 GMT
Long battles are still worth fighting. There's a whole range of possibilities that could happen. 1) The ground regulations set down by the FL could be changed to allow standing in certain areas of our all-seater ground. 2) We don't necessarily have to wait for a 4th stand before we see any terracing. Why not try and campaign for converting the OM to a safe terrace? 3) the 4th stand might be a long way off but we've at least got to make a really strong case for having it built, whenever it is, as a safe terrace. It's going to take time, lots of effort, lots of determination, and a lot of negotiating but the opportunity is there to do it. One thing's for sure. We'll never have any terracing at our ground unless we campaign for it.Exactly, best thing written on here so far. If you want to stand up at an Oxford home game you need to be willing to put some effort in and make some noise about it, otherwise things will never change. |
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 17, 2010 16:33:54 GMT
Just watching the Blackpool v Man city game. All the City fans standing up (and most of the others too) NO stewards or police making them sit down.
Enough is enough - TAKE THIS FORCED TO SIT ORDER AWAY - NOW!
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 17, 2010 16:50:48 GMT
Just watching the Blackpool v Man city game. All the City fans standing up (and most of the others too) NO stewards or police making them sit down. Enough is enough - TAKE THIS FORCED TO SIT ORDER AWAY - NOW! Indeed |
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 17, 2010 16:51:23 GMT
Long battles are still worth fighting. There's a whole range of possibilities that could happen. 1) The ground regulations set down by the FL could be changed to allow standing in certain areas of our all-seater ground. 2) We don't necessarily have to wait for a 4th stand before we see any terracing. Why not try and campaign for converting the OM to a safe terrace? 3) the 4th stand might be a long way off but we've at least got to make a really strong case for having it built, whenever it is, as a safe terrace. It's going to take time, lots of effort, lots of determination, and a lot of negotiating but the opportunity is there to do it. One thing's for sure. We'll never have any terracing at our ground unless we campaign for it. excellent post |
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