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Post by danabrey on Oct 13, 2010 19:03:01 GMT
Part of me is now slowly thinking that I may be against this. However thats only due to the fact i'm 5"4. What chance will I have to see? I'll stand at the front - thats fine, but all the singers will want to be near the back right? I don't really wanna be left out because of my height. As with people with kids who don't want them on their shoulders for 90 minutes, you go in the seats or put up with it. What do you do at away games with terraces? Edit: this isn't meant to sound rude. How to say it without it sounding rude, however, is beyond my current brain power.
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Post by 'Beav' on Oct 13, 2010 19:04:21 GMT
Part of me is now slowly thinking that I may be against this. However thats only due to the fact i'm 5"4. What chance will I have to see? I'll stand at the front - thats fine, but all the singers will want to be near the back right? I don't really wanna be left out because of my height. As with people with kids who don't want them on their shoulders for 90 minutes, you go in the seats or put up with it. What do you do at away games with terraces? Normally terraces aren't that big so I can stand at the front AND be in with the singers.
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Post by danabrey on Oct 13, 2010 19:09:05 GMT
As with people with kids who don't want them on their shoulders for 90 minutes, you go in the seats or put up with it. What do you do at away games with terraces? Normally terraces aren't that big so I can stand at the front AND be in with the singers. Having forgotten to mention the fact that terraces are not all at one level and are actually staggered upwards for this very reason, I will do that now.
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 13, 2010 20:53:55 GMT
Someone told me no and i asked why, and they said, Hillsbrough. My reply was, well they died cause they were caged in, so why not ban faences, but allow terracing. Safe terracing very possible Of all the contributing factors of the 96 deaths at Hillsborough standing was just a tiny one behind terrible policing/stewarding, dreadful organisation, decrepit facilities and treating football fans worse than animals. If you remove these standing at a football match is perfectly safe, most of us will stand at some point at a game away this season with no trouble at all. Its a bit weird that loads of fans all over this country and Europe this weekend will be on the terraces, and millions have in the 20 years since Hillsborough with no problems, yet some people still try to blame standing up for the deaths of those poor 96 fans, rather than the criminal negligence and hateful attitude of those in authority to football fans 20 years back. Hillsborough - one of the greatest cover ups of the 20th century? That's one of the best conclusions yet!
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Post by one trick Raponi on Oct 13, 2010 21:05:05 GMT
One good quote on the FSF website got me...
"How come I'm not allowed to stand when watching my football team but told that I must when I'm commuting, when the football stadium isn't moving at 70mph."
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Post by Yellowbrains on Oct 13, 2010 21:13:02 GMT
Are people saying no simply because they don't want to stand themselves, or are they actually against those of us that want to having the opportunity to choose?
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 13, 2010 21:19:30 GMT
Are people saying no simply because they don't want to stand themselves, or are they actually against those of us that want to having the opportunity to choose? Good question, yellowbrains. I should've asked if people were for, or against, in a general, not personal view.
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Post by one trick Raponi on Oct 13, 2010 21:32:29 GMT
If it's done in a way that doesn't cause inconvenience or aggravation to anyone wanting to sit, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.
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Post by Long John Silver on Oct 14, 2010 7:34:17 GMT
If it's done in a way that doesn't cause inconvenience or aggravation to anyone wanting to sit, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. This is really why I don't understand why anyone would say no to a specific standing area. Those that do like to sit should be even more in favour of a terrace in part of the ground, as it will take those that do like to stand out of their vicinity and they can then sit in peace. The only reason I can think that some people don't want any standing is that they think it is unsafe... and with modern safe terracing that just isn't true as has been pointed out numerous times.
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 14, 2010 9:35:47 GMT
If it's done in a way that doesn't cause inconvenience or aggravation to anyone wanting to sit, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. This is really why I don't understand why anyone would say no to a specific standing area. Those that do like to sit should be even more in favour of a terrace in part of the ground, as it will take those that do like to stand out of their vicinity and they can then sit in peace. The only reason I can think that some people don't want any standing is that they think it is unsafe... and with modern safe terracing that just isn't true as has been pointed out numerous times. ditto on that
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Post by YellowJ on Oct 14, 2010 10:46:03 GMT
No from me for standing in a seating area, I can't see. In a seated area people are standing directly in front of you, in a terrace you can stagger how you stand behind people.
I also enjoy singing but don't need to stand to do so. I enjoy standing on terracing.
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Post by SteMerritt on Oct 14, 2010 11:19:13 GMT
Just joined this thread at page 5, not read earlier so apologies if this has already been said...
I have been to many a gig and festival over the last 10 years or so, tens of thousands of people all standing, jumping, singing, bouncing around. No problems. I would suggest that a gig crowd is much more intense than a football crowd as well, so if you can stand at a gig, you should be able to stand at the footy.
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 14, 2010 11:24:16 GMT
Just joined this thread at page 5, not read earlier so apologies if this has already been said... I have been to many a gig and festival over the last 10 years or so, tens of thousands of people all standing, jumping, singing, bouncing around. No problems. I would suggest that a gig crowd is much more intense than a football crowd as well, so if you can stand at a gig, you should be able to stand at the footy. what about crowd surfing.... at footy ? ;D
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 14, 2010 15:22:57 GMT
So far, I've counted 50 yes, 8 no on here.
Yes or no?
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Post by KidInTheRiot on Oct 14, 2010 15:33:02 GMT
Yes.
Sorry to sound like a negative so and so but no chance of this going anywhere.
Beav, get some high heels
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Post by Ricky Otto on Oct 14, 2010 15:41:31 GMT
If it's done in a way that doesn't cause inconvenience or aggravation to anyone wanting to sit, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. This is really why I don't understand why anyone would say no to a specific standing area. Those that do like to sit should be even more in favour of a terrace in part of the ground, as it will take those that do like to stand out of their vicinity and they can then sit in peace. The only reason I can think that some people don't want any standing is that they think it is unsafe... and with modern safe terracing that just isn't true as has been pointed out numerous times. Why can't you just respect Ed's views? He has already explained that this would be illegal and lead to people dying. What isn't registering in that thick head of yours?
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 14, 2010 15:59:31 GMT
Yes. Sorry to sound like a negative so and so but no chance of this going anywhere. Beav, get some high heels No, Kid you're not being negative ( ok, that's a double negative!) Going by the past, that's being a realist. Apart from the 'Cuddy' thread, I'm looking at the future. We will get a form of terracing again, I promise you! I know it might seem a strange comparison, but think of the Berlin wall. They got over that obstacle in the end - through the will of the masses.
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Post by sarge1 on Oct 14, 2010 16:22:31 GMT
Yes. Sorry to sound like a negative so and so but no chance of this going anywhere. Beav, get some high heels No, Kid you're not being negative ( ok, that's a double negative!) Going by the past, that's being a realist. Apart from the 'Cuddy' thread, I'm looking at the future. We will get a form of terracing again, I promise you! I know it might seem a strange comparison, but think of the Berlin wall. They got over that obstacle in the end - through the will of the masses. nice one Cuddy ;D
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Post by boris on Oct 14, 2010 16:31:09 GMT
I know it might seem a strange comparison, but think of the Berlin wall. They got over that obstacle in the end - through the will of the masses. They didn't get over it, so much as smash the bloody thing down!
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Post by Amersham Dave on Oct 14, 2010 16:37:35 GMT
I know it might seem a strange comparison, but think of the Berlin wall. They got over that obstacle in the end - through the will of the masses. They didn't get over it, so much as smash the bloody thing down! Er, looking at it that way........yeah! Yes or no!
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