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Post by The Resurrection on Jan 5, 2011 22:41:25 GMT
Be like West Broms ground. Not a bad idea tbh, although we would no longer have a home 'end'
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Post by agioliver on Jan 6, 2011 0:50:43 GMT
We may not have had atmospheres as quite as comparable to places like the Kop but I don't think anyone is making such a claim. Regardless of the result, the atmosphere against Southend was very poor, especially as the attendance was over 7,000. I do think the current match atmosphere has taken a serious dip and I believe many of us would like to turn this around. I don't think anyone would disagree with you about wanting to improve the atmosphere, I just wanted to give a bit of perspective. I remember at home to Crawley in the BSP we had a great atmosphere going with the left side / right side song, despite it being a "nothing" match. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, and we don't have a history of vocal excellence. That said, more power to anyone trying to get a buzz going. My issue is that the atmosphere is consistently worse than it was for the last three or four years in the conf. We back in the bloody football league! We should be happy, but it's like a morgue recently
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Post by scoob on Jan 6, 2011 0:52:38 GMT
I think he was laying a trap! Actually (on this occasion!) that was genuine surprise at YY's recollections of good atmospheres in the past. I suppose as a young lad at the Manor the noise and general mayhem at some matches were quite overwhelming, but I honestly don't think we've ever been "first division" for atmosphere creation. If anything, we've been far too quiet at home for much of the 40 years I've watched Oxford. Certain away games, on the other hand, have been much more enjoyable! You may well be right but we are hardly going to create an atmosphere that is equivalent to a team with 5-10 ten times our average crowd. I can remember many games at the Manor in the mid-eighties that had fantastic atmosphere whether in the London Road or the Osler Road and the atmosphere was part of the reason why I got hooked despite not attending many matches before the age of 16. There were also some great atmospheres when we were promoted from Div 3 to Div 2 in the nineties. However, I can also remember many games standing in the London Road when the atmosphere was no better than the majority of the games at the Kassam but by that time I could not escape from the addiction. The main problem in recent years (most of the time at the Kassam) has been the lack of away supporters to fire us all up. However, I will not give up hope that things can be improved if enough like minded people have the will.
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Post by YellowHoods on Jan 6, 2011 10:38:32 GMT
Unfortunately, the whole issue of vocal support / atmosphere is not a science. It's unpredictable and difficult to explain, from match to match.
At Liverpool the home areas other than the Kop are notoriously quiet, yet Liverpool fans are considered amongst the most passionate in the land.
At Old Trafford 3,000 away fans regularly out-sing the home support, yet Man U fans away from home are loud and impressive.
There were 27,500 home fans at Leicester for the Leeds match on Boxing Day, but they hardly made a sound.
Oxford fans can't be coerced into making an atmosphere. If the conditions are right that will come. Problem is working out what those conditions are and taking advantage. Is it number of away fans? Is it weather conditions? Is it recent form? Is it attractiveness of play?
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Post by mcf86 on Jan 6, 2011 12:25:32 GMT
Unfortunately, the whole issue of vocal support / atmosphere is not a science. It's unpredictable and difficult to explain, from match to match. At Liverpool the home areas other than the Kop are notoriously quiet, yet Liverpool fans are considered amongst the most passionate in the land. At Old Trafford 3,000 away fans regularly out-sing the home support, yet Man U fans away from home are loud and impressive. There were 27,500 home fans at Leicester for the Leeds match on Boxing Day, but they hardly made a sound. Oxford fans can't be coerced into making an atmosphere. If the conditions are right that will come. Problem is working out what those conditions are and taking advantage. Is it number of away fans? Is it weather conditions? Is it recent form? Is it attractiveness of play?Imho none of those. What you have hit upon -regarding the 'away' support is, although being outnumbered ten times or much more they often make more noise, and i think it's a natural reaction to being surrounded by the 'enemy'! You'd be better off asking Desmond Morris about this angle though.
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Post by Yuri Yeller on Jan 6, 2011 13:25:24 GMT
Unfortunately, the whole issue of vocal support / atmosphere is not a science. It's unpredictable and difficult to explain, from match to match. Oxford fans can't be coerced into making an atmosphere. If the conditions are right that will come. Problem is working out what those conditions are and taking advantage. Is it number of away fans? Is it weather conditions? Is it recent form? Is it attractiveness of play? Why is it we seem to make the most noise when we have a corner but hardly ever score from corners?I agree these things cannot be contrived but there are clearly things that can influence and promote a receptible environment. The suggestion is for a group of people who enjoy singing to be specifically grouped/stood together for that reason. The top right hand corner of the east stand has the necessary combined qualities of availability, ability to stand and environmental acoustics. If interested supporters develop a propensity to congregate in this area, it is likely they will also be more inclined to sing. It just depends on whether anyone has the inclination.
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Post by Gavin Archery on Jan 6, 2011 13:32:46 GMT
Unfortunately, the whole issue of vocal support / atmosphere is not a science. It's unpredictable and difficult to explain, from match to match. At Liverpool the home areas other than the Kop are notoriously quiet, yet Liverpool fans are considered amongst the most passionate in the land. At Old Trafford 3,000 away fans regularly out-sing the home support, yet Man U fans away from home are loud and impressive. There were 27,500 home fans at Leicester for the Leeds match on Boxing Day, but they hardly made a sound. Oxford fans can't be coerced into making an atmosphere. If the conditions are right that will come. Problem is working out what those conditions are and taking advantage. Is it number of away fans? Is it weather conditions? Is it recent form? Is it attractiveness of play? We are probably guilty of the "you only sing when you're winning" analogy. You watch how our fans chant more when we are in the lead. And BTW I'm not gay you ..........
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