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Post by baldy on Nov 21, 2010 14:49:59 GMT
I am definitely not advocating managerial change but reading a lot of posts over the last 24 hours it seems a lot of you are. Given the perilous position we find ourselves in lets say there isn't a 4-6 week period for a strung out managerial chase and if he did go we had to find a new boss within a fortnight. Who, out there and available, would you want ?
I believe CW will change this around, we might have to suffer another defeat or two before the tide turns but I'm positive he is the man to do it. This is a classic case of the directors and fans holding their nerve and sticking with someone who they've had much faith in and who has delivered recent success.
Anyway, back to the original point. Just curious as to who you think could halt the slide, turn it around and go on to succeed in the coming seasons better than Chris Wilder.
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Post by junior1 on Nov 21, 2010 14:52:17 GMT
Dave Penney is on the Market, good track record on and around this level.. Oxford background...
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Post by Gavin Archery on Nov 21, 2010 16:24:05 GMT
How about we say, 5 more defeats then thats it?
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Post by ed on Nov 21, 2010 17:21:08 GMT
How about we say, 5 more defeats then thats it? what in a row? out of the next 10? all season?
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Post by lordwilliam on Nov 21, 2010 22:15:47 GMT
Dave Penny, without a shadow of a doubt, is the man to pick up on the mess wilder has got us into.
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Post by tatabanya on Nov 22, 2010 0:50:04 GMT
Dave Penny, without a shadow of a doubt, is the man to pick up on the mess wilder has got us into. No doubt at all? Great glad thats sorted.
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Post by SuperOx on Nov 22, 2010 8:08:55 GMT
Dave Penny, without a shadow of a doubt, is the man to pick up on the mess wilder has got us into. Best you learn how to spell his name then. It's David Penney - surely you should know that? You seem to know everything else.
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Post by Millman on Nov 22, 2010 8:49:04 GMT
Playing devils advocate here but even if we are looking at a 4 - 6 week period to get a new manager (and I firmly believe you can do this faster) would keeping a manager with our current form be any worse.
There are a number of fans still think we are going to tun things around. I would genuinely like for you to explain to me why this is?
What concerns me is that we aren't really improving. The manager isn't saying the right things, he still is hell bent on blaming the players the fans anyone but his tactics, formations, and coaching. What is worse is we have started the dreaded player merry go round which failed us so badly last year. We still seem slow to the ball, poor at set pieces, playing players in a system that does not suit them, and lack width. These are problems we have had all season. If this wasn't the case I would be happy to believe Wilder is the man to take us forward, but as it is I am extremely worried.
I keep hoping that we will see improvements as outlined above instead we are just seeing new loanees. If things are not very much improved by Christmas then yes we will have to look at what is wrong and fix it. At the moment this seems to be the manager.
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Post by tatabanya on Nov 22, 2010 12:18:58 GMT
This happened last season and we went up. You can say we were lucky as much as you want, but we went up. Wilder has turned it around before.
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 22, 2010 12:32:43 GMT
This happened last season and we went up. You can say we were lucky as much as you want, but we went up. Wilder has turned it around before.[/quote] Yes, but i'm starting to get the feeling he's literally out of his League now. Can we afford to gamble on the manager in his learning phase with the Clubs' future possibly at stake?
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Post by tatabanya on Nov 22, 2010 12:37:29 GMT
Can we afford to gamble with a manager who doesn't know the club, the players, the fans, the training facilities, the backroom staff, the board, the financial situation etc.
More of a gamble bringing a new man in.
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Post by Gavin Archery on Nov 22, 2010 12:54:19 GMT
How about we say, 5 more defeats then thats it? what in a row? out of the next 10? all season? 5 defeats in next 7 matches and thats it....
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Post by Agadoo on Nov 22, 2010 13:49:07 GMT
Can we afford to gamble with a manager who doesn't know the club, the players, the fans, the training facilities, the backroom staff, the board, the financial situation etc. More of a gamble bringing a new man in. Penney has Oxford in his heart, he played in front of the London Road, he knows what this club demands. Wilder has only got non league experience
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Post by tatabanya on Nov 22, 2010 13:52:58 GMT
Can we afford to gamble with a manager who doesn't know the club, the players, the fans, the training facilities, the backroom staff, the board, the financial situation etc. More of a gamble bringing a new man in. Penney has Oxford in his heart, he played in front of the London Road, he knows what this club demands. Wilder has only got non league experience Didn't Jim Smith have Oxford in his heart? Didn't Jamie Cook know what the Yellow shirt means. Wasn't Malcolm Shotton's return to the club the second coming? Wasn't Gilly going to return and lead us to a bounce straight back to the league? Didn't Mark Wright bleed yellow and blue? Wasn't Dennis Smith's heroic return going to stop our free fall down the leagues? Wake up.
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Post by baldy on Nov 22, 2010 14:17:55 GMT
Penney has Oxford in his heart, he played in front of the London Road, he knows what this club demands. Wilder has only got non league experience Didn't Jim Smith have Oxford in his heart? Didn't Jamie Cook know what the Yellow shirt means. Wasn't Malcolm Shotton's return to the club the second coming? Wasn't Gilly going to return and lead us to a bounce straight back to the league? Didn't Mark Wright bleed yellow and blue? Wasn't Dennis Smith's heroic return going to stop our free fall down the leagues? Wake up. Well said. Moobs is a muppet who, quite frankly, hasn't got a clue.
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Post by yarntonyellows on Nov 22, 2010 14:34:55 GMT
Dave Penney is on the Market, good track record on and around this level.. Oxford background... He,s been at a couple of matches recently,and i've heard Kalvin and CW have had a falling out. I can see what Bald's argument is,but Wilder is dreadfully pigheaded and that was nearly his downfall last season but he got lucky. Will he be as fortuitous this season?
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Post by Agadoo on Nov 22, 2010 14:36:14 GMT
Penney has Oxford in his heart, he played in front of the London Road, he knows what this club demands. Wilder has only got non league experience Didn't Jim Smith have Oxford in his heart? Didn't Jamie Cook know what the Yellow shirt means. Wasn't Malcolm Shotton's return to the club the second coming? Wasn't Gilly going to return and lead us to a bounce straight back to the league? Didn't Mark Wright bleed yellow and blue? Wasn't Dennis Smith's heroic return going to stop our free fall down the leagues? Wake up. That doesn't mean that's the rule though, we have been unlucky in the past but most managers have had to work under difficult circumstances. I feel that if any new manager had a connection with the club it would be a bonus but they must have a good track record, that's why Penney ticks all the boxes
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Post by tatabanya on Nov 22, 2010 14:40:04 GMT
Riding a bike without a helmet does not mean you will certainly be badly injured, but it is a bad idea.
Let's leave past heroes as past heroes.
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Post by bluealice on Nov 22, 2010 14:56:24 GMT
Hello! [knock knock] hello anyone in? WE DON'T NEED A NEW FUC.ING MANAGER. Just a change of tactics/formation.We have good players, just a bit of luck[flukey goal etc] will bring back the confidence factor, all CW needs to do is rip up the 4-3-3 bollocks and get back to basics.
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Post by Agadoo on Nov 22, 2010 15:00:22 GMT
Hello! [knock knock] hello anyone in? WE DON'T NEED A NEW FUC.ING MANAGER. Just a change of tactics/formation.We have good players, just a bit of luck[flukey goal etc] will bring back the confidence factor, all CW needs to do is rip up the 4-3-3 bollocks and get back to basics. But the current manager cannot work out the right tactics / formation because if he could we wouldn't even be having this debate
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