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Post by saddletramp on Aug 1, 2010 9:58:54 GMT
Read an article in a broadsheet this week about the crisis facing football. The financial aspects of trying to keep teams in the prem are forcing clubs into any scheme they can come up with to try to increase revenue,this usually means increased ticket prices/season tickets/food and drink. Now Oxford are having a revival and the crowds will inrease,its great to read this week that season tickets will be around 4,000 and i hope that average crowds will be above the 7,000 mark,but i do think that fans will pick and choose games due to financial restraints. Some of the facts stated in the article, 5 years ago Manchester United had a 60,000 waiting list for season tickets,this year they have over 4,000 unsold in all areas of the ground. Arsenal have 6,000 season ticket holders who have not renewed this season. England have had to reduce the price of tickets for next weeks game at Wembley due to poor sales. All in all i think crowds this season will show a significant drop from last season.People just seem disillusioned with football at the moment and afte the world cup cant seem to raise any enthusiasm. I know due to promotion we are all buzzing,but this doesnt seem to have been reproduced by teams who had no success last year. E.G. Derby County had an average crowd last season of over 28,000 yesterday,the saturday before there season starts the had a friendly against local,premier league opposition (Birmingham)and had a massive crowd of 4,000! I dont think it bodes well for the season for alot of clubs. Lets hope we buck the trend.
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Post by Pogue Mahone on Aug 1, 2010 10:04:29 GMT
Don't know, we have sold 4,000 season tickets - up on last year - and with an average of 6,500. I think it more than likely with bigger crowds coming to town, we will see a 7,000 average.
However, I think that the bigger teams will start to lose paying fans to lower league clubs as the pricing structure gets more and more ridiculous.
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Post by lincolnyellow1 on Aug 1, 2010 11:58:19 GMT
The cost of watching Championship and Premiership football in this country is far too expensive, we have been extremly lucky to have watched some entertaining and exciting football by the club we love over the last 18 months or so with only paying a third of the cost of a premiership ticket.... £15 - £20 for a ticket is more than addiquate for watching our standard of football, paying £35 - £40 per ticket (in any division) would price a certain amount of yellows out of the market..... . We will almost certainly be averaging 6000 - 6500 yellows per home league game this term, and for the 1st time in 4 seasons (barring, a handfull of conference vistors) we are going to see some away fans, which over the season should average 5 - 600, thus giving us that magic 7000 or so inside the Kassam every other Saturday. . not having away fans has cost the club in excess of half a million pounds over the last 4 seasons (400 away fans x £15 per ticket x 23 games x 4 seasons), so we should see the club maintain their strong footing in the current financial market. . OXFORD TILL I DIE
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Post by one trick Raponi on Aug 1, 2010 12:18:13 GMT
I couldn't care less for the greed of the premiership. They've had so much money for so long they've taken their income for granted, taken their supporters for granted and taken their premiership status or their finishing position in it for granted.
KT said it all at the fans forum. Only 2 clubs from the 92 made a profit last season.
We're doing it the right way if we set our stall out to make a profit from the upcoming season. Football clubs have to live within their means. It's a lesson we've learnt the hard way but at least it looks like it's a lesson we've learnt.
The budget for this season seems very conservative. IL has learnt hard lessons from the balls out approach he took in the first 2 seasons in the conference.
We will struggle to compete with the bigger (over) spenders in league 2 off the pitch but we could still be competing pretty well with them on the pitch where it counts.
Our crowds will be healthy but the club can't afford to neglect the support base it has. We should be looking to build the support base at every opportunity.
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Post by moomooland on Aug 1, 2010 15:38:10 GMT
The days of the gravy train are over for the big clubs. A lot of people are disillussioned with the "stars" after the world cup debacle. Now they will turn their backs on over paid prima donnas and rediscover their local clubs.
This is the age of the little club.
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Post by malcolmnl on Aug 1, 2010 18:44:31 GMT
The days of the gravy train are over for the big clubs. A lot of people are disillussioned with the "stars" after the world cup debacle. Now they will turn their backs on over paid prima donnas and rediscover their local clubs. This is the age of the little club.I hope You're right moomoo. The struggling grass roots clubs deserve more support. They're what real football is all about.
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Post by moomooland on Aug 1, 2010 19:05:45 GMT
It's time the people seized the game back.
Grab it and take it, it's yours!
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Post by baldy on Aug 1, 2010 20:29:33 GMT
The cost of watching Championship and Premiership football in this country is far too expensive, we have been extremly lucky to have watched some entertaining and exciting football by the club we love over the last 18 months or so with only paying a third of the cost of a premiership ticket.... £15 - £20 for a ticket is more than addiquate for watching our standard of football, paying £35 - £40 per ticket (in any division) would price a certain amount of yellows out of the market..... . We will almost certainly be averaging 6000 - 6500 yellows per home league game this term, and for the 1st time in 4 seasons (barring, a handfull of conference vistors) we are going to see some away fans, which over the season should average 5 - 600, thus giving us that magic 7000 or so inside the Kassam every other Saturday. . not having away fans has cost the club in excess of half a million pounds over the last 4 seasons (400 away fans x £15 per ticket x 23 games x 4 seasons), so we should see the club maintain their strong footing in the current financial market. . OXFORD TILL I DIE I'm not so sure we will get 600 'ish away fans on average. I think you might have to halve that to be nearer the mark.
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Post by EssexYellows on Aug 2, 2010 7:11:17 GMT
It's time the people seized the game back. Grab it and take it, it's yours! SLF fan ? lol
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Post by edgecam on Aug 2, 2010 10:24:56 GMT
Its not just a top flight issue.I nteresting to read on the Luton forum Richard Money moaning about the number of people attending their friendlies, last season over 7k watch a man u x11 this year just over 2k watched a Liverpool X11. I think Money has spent the income and now it’s not materialised. Ha Ha.
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Post by moomooland on Aug 2, 2010 11:04:35 GMT
It's time the people seized the game back. Grab it and take it, it's yours! SLF fan ? lol Stiff Little Fingers. Definitely.
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 2, 2010 15:47:47 GMT
Not sure the bubble is bursting but I do think due to UEFA's new financial and home player regulations kicking in, that PL/Championship club's are starting the process of reducing costs that L1/L2/BSP clubs have already mostly began. There are exceptions in all leagues (such as Man City or Fleetwood (never thought they would be used in the same example )) but overall it looks like professional English football and top European football (Barcelona needing a loan and the uncertainty of their TV contract) are being forced to look at financial reality.
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