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Post by Londonroader on Jan 1, 2011 19:20:14 GMT
I was more than a bit bemused by the substitutions, why take Payne off with 2 minutes to go to half time, I know he had lost his head a bit, but why waste a substitution then when he could have waited to half time, this lead to their 2nd goal as Hall gave the ball away with his 1st touch.
I thought Futcher did ok in the 1st half the thing that was letting him and the whole back 4 down was their distribution, they just hoofed the ball out and Southend were far to good for that, we were 2 down why change a defender? Wright distributed the ball better the 2nd half and put in a couple of good tackles, but was very lucky to stay on the pitch when he pulled back their player who went past him, good job the ref didn't spot it.
So in my opinion 2 wasted subs and then bringing Craddock on but leaving the ineffective Potter on was wrong, why not change what we were trying to do and inject some pace into the attack by bringing on Green, we were devoid of ideas Today against a far better and more organised team.
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Post by oxontop on Jan 1, 2011 19:40:10 GMT
I was more than a bit bemused by the substitutions, why take Payne off with 2 minutes to go to half time, I know he had lost his head a bit, but why waste a substitution then when he could have waited to half time, this lead to their 2nd goal as Hall gave the ball away with his 1st touch. I thought Futcher did ok in the 1st half the thing that was letting him and the whole back 4 down was their distribution, they just hoofed the ball out and Southend were far to good for that, we were 2 down why change a defender? Wright distributed the ball better the 2nd half and put in a couple of good tackles, but was very lucky to stay on the pitch when he pulled back their player who went past him, good job the ref didn't spot it. So in my opinion 2 wasted subs and then bringing Craddock on but leaving the ineffective Potter on was wrong, why not change what we were trying to do and inject some pace into the attack by bringing on Green, [glow=red,2,300]we were devoid of ideas Today against a far better and more organised team[/glow]. In a nutshell, yes. Exactly right. |
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Post by SuperOx on Jan 1, 2011 19:50:18 GMT
Payne had a nightmare.I like him, think he's got great ability and is a good signing but
he kept on giving the ball away cheaply with casual sideways passes.
He did one fantastic Beckhamesque pass down the wing to Potter but his overall play and the yellow card meant he had to come off. I would have made the change at half time and not embarrassed the lad. Wright for Futcher was also not a problem. I would not have played Clist at left back though when Craddock replaced Kinniburgh. The ineffective Potter should have made way.
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Post by faldo6 on Jan 1, 2011 19:58:51 GMT
Payne and Heslop were both on bookings and in danger of being sent off.
The substitution made perfect sense because we needed to start winning the 2nd ball and close Southend down much quicker.
Sadly as you point out Asa came on a and cost us the second goal but his closing down and energy are normally his strengths.
Its always easy to criticise in retrospect.
Today was an off day (I hope) and all 11 Oxford players were very poor including Maclean...
Southend actually looked a poor team but they were much stronger physically in all areas of the park and won 90% of 2nd balls. They did a job on us but we should never allowed that to happen.
Positives -
Futcher was taken off and Wilder now recognises he's not good enough. The way he was beaten in the air for the second goal was embarrassing!
Our fans today were very good/ Agreed with all Wilders comments in his post match interview.
Wright came on and looked good
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Post by baldy on Jan 1, 2011 19:59:04 GMT
Good post.
What I couldn't understand was why we wasted a substitution by bringing on Wright when it was goals we needed. Futcher, though not brilliant, wasn't having an absolute disaster of a game and I'd have left it as it was and used the substitution up top.
It also begs the question that if Wright was fit for 45 minutes then why not start with him ? He did really well when he came on and got the pace of the game right away. I think Futcher and Worley could have coped OK in the second half.
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Post by SuperOx on Jan 1, 2011 20:16:33 GMT
A team to face Torquay: Clarke Batt Worley Wright Kinniburgh McLaren Heslop Clist Constable Maclean Craddock I don't think Tonkin would come in as that would be three changes to the back four but you never know. |
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Post by bigfella72 on Jan 1, 2011 21:25:23 GMT
Payne- Wilder did it to embarass him for that very dodgy challenge and his attitude cos its not been the first time he's lost the plot.
Futcher-He's garbage but a waste of an attacking subs when your 2-0 down
Craddock-Attacking sub but he still lacks that fighting spirit you need when your behind (needs to grow a pair)
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Post by browny on Jan 1, 2011 21:47:30 GMT
Payne- Wilder did it to embarass him for that very dodgy challenge and his attitude cos its not been the first time he's lost the plot. I sincerely hope that was not the reason although I suspect you are right. If he is unhappy then tell him privately rather than show everyone how bleedin clever you are by doing it with a minute to go and showing how you are the boss We do not need that towards a young player who has a great future with us |
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Post by bigfella72 on Jan 1, 2011 21:49:23 GMT
Payne- Wilder did it to embarass him for that very dodgy challenge and his attitude cos its not been the first time he's lost the plot. I sincerely hope that was not the reason although I suspect you are right. If he is unhappy then tell him privately rather than show everyone how bleedin clever you are by doing it with a minute to go and showing how you are the boss We do not need that towards a young player who has a great future with us Agree! He should have bollocked him at half time and subbed him then. Hall wasn't up to speed and made the mistake for their second. |
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Post by OxYellow on Jan 1, 2011 22:15:43 GMT
Sadly that probably was the reason Payne was taken off, probably a wise decision as he looked like his temper was starting to boil over ( Kicking the ball at the southend players when they were celebrating, and then lunging in for a challenge )
Still would have been better to wait until half time.
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Post by bigman2 on Jan 2, 2011 7:41:22 GMT
Still unsure as to why Craddock was bought on and then played wide left, he is a centre Forward, why not give Green those few mins with his pace!! He must've really pissed Wilder off because he isn't getting a sniff at the moment!!
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Post by paulayres on Jan 2, 2011 10:53:25 GMT
Wilder F***ked up yesterday. He should have started with Batt. Subbing 2 mins from halftime proved costley and changing Futcher for Wright was a wasted substitution when we needed to attack in the 2nd half. I think you will find that Kinny came off due to an injury if not then yet again a wasted substitution. Potter worked hard but was ineffective. We ended up with no midfield and 4 forwards chasing around like headless chickens.
The tinkerman returns and it cost us dearly.
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Post by rsrp2 on Jan 2, 2011 13:37:15 GMT
Payne- Wilder did it to embarass him for that very dodgy challenge and his attitude cos its not been the first time he's lost the plot. Futcher-He's garbage but a waste of an attacking subs when your 2-0 down Craddock-Attacking sub but he still lacks that fighting spirit you need when your behind (needs to grow a pair) Totally agree. Payne eyes were sticking out of his forehead. |
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