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Post by yelloexile on Sept 24, 2010 11:38:57 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11397020Filed for Chapter 11 in the US - although I know it's been on the cards for a while. Saying that, perhaps this will allow some of the independents to rise again? When I lived in Oxford I used to go to the 'Videohall' in Botley. Have to admit that personally I like being able to go into Blockies and pick out a film or two - gave love film a go for a while but gave up, as I wasn't getting proper use. Will the internet kill off 'face-to face' rentals? Beginning of the end for them in the UK?
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Post by The Fence End on Sept 24, 2010 11:47:24 GMT
Definately beginning of the end for DVD rental shops and even for firms like Love Film with people now being able to have films streamed on order to your TV at home through Virgin Media for example.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Sept 24, 2010 12:18:33 GMT
I'm surprised its taken this long for blockbuster to go TBH. Not only do you have intrnet based rentals you have pirate downloads whereby you don't even have to return the material you are watching and if you want to avoid illegal sources you can pick up the latest moveies for about £5 under the asking price, and older moves for £2-3 on amazon or play.
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Post by SteMerritt on Sept 24, 2010 12:47:46 GMT
I believe (although I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong) that the UK business is separate to the US one, and won't be affected by this.
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Post by yelloexile on Sept 24, 2010 12:58:06 GMT
I believe (although I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong) that the UK business is separate to the US one, and won't be affected by this. They are, that's why I added the bit at the end. |
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Post by Agadoo on Sept 24, 2010 12:58:58 GMT
I think also there's so much garbage in the film industry. Very rarely does a really big film come out that is a must see. All the films these days are recreations of old films or TV series....*Yawwn*.
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Post by SteMerritt on Sept 24, 2010 13:04:54 GMT
I believe (although I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong) that the UK business is separate to the US one, and won't be affected by this. They are, that's why I added the bit at the end. Oh yeah! Sorry, MTV generation, attention span only lasts for 3 paragraphs  |
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Post by amarillo on Sept 24, 2010 13:18:51 GMT
I think also there's so much garbage in the film industry. Very rarely does a really big film come out that is a must see. All the films these days are recreations of old films or TV series....*Yawwn*. But thats Hollywood films Look away from the mainstream and you'll never look back, there is loads of great stuff out there. |
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Post by Simon Lill on Sept 24, 2010 13:24:05 GMT
Download isn't going to be the death of disc until it can compare in quality.
I have a good rig at home and why would I chose to download a film when a bluray disc with its 7.1 channels of HD audio provides a superior experience.
That said, I believe the likes of Lovefilm will all but kill off the likes of Blockbuster on the 'high street'
EDIT: plus, blurays come with extra features that I don't personally care for but which are a key part of the appeal of the format. I think it's rare for sites to offer this as a download
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Post by kassyite on Sept 24, 2010 20:06:09 GMT
Download isn't going to be the death of disc until it can compare in quality. I have a good rig at home and why would I chose to download a film when a bluray disc with its 7.1 channels of HD audio provides a superior experience. That said, I believe the likes of Lovefilm will all but kill off the likes of Blockbuster on the 'high street' EDIT: plus, blurays come with extra features that I don't personally care for but which are a key part of the appeal of the format. I think it's rare for sites to offer this as a download If theres a blu ray disc out there you can download it somewhere  |
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Post by kassyite on Sept 24, 2010 20:11:38 GMT
Download isn't going to be the death of disc until it can compare in quality. I have a good rig at home and why would I chose to download a film when a bluray disc with its 7.1 channels of HD audio provides a superior experience. That said, I believe the likes of Lovefilm will all but kill off the likes of Blockbuster on the 'high street' EDIT: plus, blurays come with extra features that I don't personally care for but which are a key part of the appeal of the format. I think it's rare for sites to offer this as a download If theres a blu ray disc out there you can download it somewhere |
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Post by HKYellow on Sept 25, 2010 1:25:17 GMT
In a way I think its a bit sad. Its another example of us sitting on our arses and getting something delivered to us, rather than go out, see the sun, be around people and actually go somewhere.
With all the audiences in technology, one day we will be able to sit on our sofa's with a pair of 3D glasses watching the mighty Yellows on TV as if we were at the Kassam!
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Post by danabrey on Sept 25, 2010 10:55:54 GMT
I don't think it's always sad when change happens - I mean, Blockbuster have their own online rental service so they are part of their own retail demise anyway. If it's more cost effective for the business and the consumer to rent online, then ignoring pirate downloads it's going to change anyway. Once everyone has high-speed connections, streaming movies straight to your TV will be even cheaper and easier.
And rather than spending half an hour going to Blockbuster, picking a DVD and then taking it back and getting another copy when it's scratched, we have more time to "go out, see the sun, be around people and actually go somewhere."
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Post by Simon Lill on Sept 25, 2010 11:15:26 GMT
But are you downloading the layers that contain the hd audio track? Also, bluray is a PHYSICAL technology that is superior to a rip of that disc. There are elements of the hardware that made it superior to HD-DVD and to download. Granted it may well be a 1080p download but thats not the same as saying its a 'bluray' because that is a physical disc being played by a physical player. If download was the same or superior the bluray format simply wouldn't need to exist in this era. To suggest it is, is to suggest that a lossless rip of a CD is the same as the CD itself when, albeit close, it never will be because the CD is the phsyical source of the downloaded rip and has the advantage of being able to be played on CD transports costing thousands of pounds that are physically able to extract the extra detail found on a disc thats lost during a rip. Granted, the gap between download and disc is closing all the time, and in terms of music some download sites allow you to purchase tracks at a superior quality to CD but that is not the case...yet...with the film industry. |
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Post by truthteller on Sept 25, 2010 17:04:36 GMT
But are you downloading the layers that contain the hd audio track? Also, bluray is a PHYSICAL technology that is superior to a rip of that disc. There are elements of the hardware that made it superior to HD-DVD and to download. Granted it may well be a 1080p download but thats not the same as saying its a 'bluray' because that is a physical disc being played by a physical player. If download was the same or superior the bluray format simply wouldn't need to exist in this era. To suggest it is, is to suggest that a lossless rip of a CD is the same as the CD itself when, albeit close, it never will be because the CD is the phsyical source of the downloaded rip and has the advantage of being able to be played on CD transports costing thousands of pounds that are physically able to extract the extra detail found on a disc thats lost during a rip. Granted, the gap between download and disc is closing all the time, and in terms of music some download sites allow you to purchase tracks at a superior quality to CD but that is not the case...yet...with the film industry. |
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Post by peterdevo on Sept 25, 2010 17:07:12 GMT
The writing has been on the walll for a long time with them.
The only surprise is that it didn't happen before
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Post by Simon Lill on Sept 25, 2010 19:14:19 GMT
But are you downloading the layers that contain the hd audio track? Also, bluray is a PHYSICAL technology that is superior to a rip of that disc. There are elements of the hardware that made it superior to HD-DVD and to download. Granted it may well be a 1080p download but thats not the same as saying its a 'bluray' because that is a physical disc being played by a physical player. If download was the same or superior the bluray format simply wouldn't need to exist in this era. To suggest it is, is to suggest that a lossless rip of a CD is the same as the CD itself when, albeit close, it never will be because the CD is the phsyical source of the downloaded rip and has the advantage of being able to be played on CD transports costing thousands of pounds that are physically able to extract the extra detail found on a disc thats lost during a rip. Granted, the gap between download and disc is closing all the time, and in terms of music some download sites allow you to purchase tracks at a superior quality to CD but that is not the case...yet...with the film industry. What bit didn't you understand? That bluray is a physical format of discs and lasers that produces a superior output to a rip of a bluray disc played back via a pc via a piece of software? That CD is better than a lossless rip because, again, it is a physical format of discs and lasers possibly played back via transports costing hundreds to thousands of pounds? That some music download sites offer birates superior to that found on CD? Or that the film industry has yet to offer a similar option where the film quality offered via download is superior to that offered via disc? |
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Post by kassyite on Sept 26, 2010 13:17:55 GMT
I wouldve thought it was obvious that you would need a bluray player and a bluray disc to view a bluray video,whats stopping you from copying the bluray film from the internet onto a bluray disc and watching it on yer bluray player??
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Post by Boogaloo on Sept 26, 2010 14:08:08 GMT
Blockbuster's pricing is ludicrous, that's why I rarely use my Blockbuster card these days? I mean £2.99 for a film when you sometimes get them to keep for a penny more at Sainsburys or Tescos, or even second hand off E-Bay for 99p? Back in the day £2.99 for a DVD rental was good value - not now it's not.
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Post by Simon Lill on Sept 26, 2010 14:45:08 GMT
I wouldve thought it was obvious that you would need a bluray player and a bluray disc to view a bluray video,whats stopping you from copying the bluray film from the internet onto a bluray disc and watching it on yer bluray player?? Taking a CD, ripping it at 320kbs and burning back on to a CD does not make it 'CD quality'. Detail has been lost during the rip. Same applies with bluray rips. Like I said, the gap between movie download and bluray is closing all the time but it remains inferior albeit possibly unnoticable by most. I ask again though, when you download the 'bluray' are you downloading all the layers including those that hold the HD audio track? If not then the argument that it's 'the same' is immediately lost. EDIT: remember I'm arguing between the difference in bluray and watching a film via download. Not creating a 1:1 'copy' of a bluray to watch on a bluray player. |
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