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Post by baldy on Jan 12, 2011 21:57:52 GMT
2 defeats in 2 games. I thought new managers were meant to have an immediate impact. There cant be many who lose their first two in charge. Liverpool are in total disarray and freefalling into oblivion.
What a mess !
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Post by unification on Jan 12, 2011 22:07:02 GMT
I adore it when fan pressure falls completely flat. 'Big club' mentality thinking all the fans are right in bringing back a 'hero' who has done it all before.
Seeing Geordies getting 'King Kev' on the back of their shirts and then watching their team flounder before camp Kev departs again is always a pleasure. Watching the 'local hero' Shearer take them down was a joy. Wonderful to see Liverpool haul Daglish back from nowhere and their fans expect him to turn a shower of sh*t into the European Champions too. They expect 'Roy of the Rovers' stuff and fairytales, but simply they should have given Hodgson a chance.
Poor Roy didn't even get a chance in this transfer window to get rid of some of Liverpool's poorer performers and his hands were tied with the takeover in the last one.
Liverpool deserve everything they get for forcing Hodgson out so early. Blackpool have done the double over them this season and with a bit of luck Dalglish will take the 'Pool down.
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Post by witneyellow on Jan 12, 2011 22:29:24 GMT
It's a good job oxford aren't like that otherwise they would have gone berserk at the Bald Eagle coming back and been sorely disappointmented!
Moral of the story - never go back; you have nothing to prove but lots to lose!
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Post by Agadoo on Jan 12, 2011 22:30:56 GMT
Daglish only lost his first match cos Man Utd cheated and Howard Webb is a Man Utd fan
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Post by junior1 on Jan 12, 2011 22:41:18 GMT
I adore it when fan pressure falls completely flat. 'Big club' mentality thinking all the fans are right in bringing back a 'hero' who has done it all before. Seeing Geordies getting 'King Kev' on the back of their shirts and then watching their team flounder before camp Kev departs again is always a pleasure. Watching the 'local hero' Shearer take them down was a joy. Wonderful to see Liverpool haul Daglish back from nowhere and their fans expect him to turn a shower of sh*t into the European Champions too. They expect 'Roy of the Rovers' stuff and fairytales, but simply they should have given Hodgson a chance. Poor Roy didn't even get a chance in this transfer window to get rid of some of Liverpool's poorer performers and his hands were tied with the takeover in the last one. Liverpool deserve everything they get for forcing Hodgson out so early. Blackpool have done the double over them this season and with a bit of luck Dalglish will take the 'Pool down. Spot on....^^^^
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Post by Dougie07 on Jan 12, 2011 22:48:01 GMT
Much better tonight for an hour. Got the ball down and tried that old passing and moving thing that Hodgson hated so much. Many, many issues still to be corrected but the philosophy is vastly improved from Hodgson's route one style. Several of the players will need to be changed to suit Dalglish's mentality and confidence needs to grow among those that remain. Dirk Kuyt, for example, needs to learn about a first touch.
Looking forward to constant Baldy sniping though. You hate Liverpool and you hate Dalglish. Impartial comment isn't going to be forthcoming is it?!
While we're here, Blackpool play some great football. Charlie Adam could play at a bigger club. Liverpool were rumoured to be in for him earlier today and they could certainly do with his passing ability. He was superb. Holloway leaves them really open and better teams will certainly pick them off but in terms of entertainment and attacking intent, he's been brilliant for the Premier League. At times tonight, it was like a basketball game with one side attacking and then the other. He had his team putting the balls into the right areas and then winning the second ball and doing it again. That is where they won three points tonight and for quality of final ball, it was fully deserved.
I'm not sure how far Holloway's style could take him in the game but I'm loving it.
Edit: Also worth pointing out that Fergie got 1 point from his first two games. That was against newly promoted Norwich. He's not done too badly so I think it might be worth giving Dalglish more than just the three training sessions!
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Post by baldy on Jan 12, 2011 23:00:44 GMT
People said Hodgson sounded dour and uninspiring but Dalgleish is something else. If his demeanour in interviews matches his personality in the dressing room then they're up a creek without a paddle - f***** in other words.
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Post by northstand1 on Jan 13, 2011 0:25:39 GMT
he looks like a spitting image puppet.stick to playing golf mate and dying your hair.next question,wich one.
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Post by junior1 on Jan 13, 2011 2:17:01 GMT
Do you think when they called him King Kenny they forgot the 'useless fuc' on the beginning?
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Post by baldy on Jan 13, 2011 7:59:01 GMT
Do you think when they called him King Kenny they forgot the 'useless fuc' on the beginning? ;D
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Post by YellowHoods on Jan 13, 2011 10:18:45 GMT
2 defeats in 2 games. I thought new managers were meant to have an immediate impact. There cant be many who lose their first two in charge. Liverpool are in total disarray and freefalling into oblivion. What a mess ! This schadenfreude (satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune) from you is quite disturbing Baldy, whether it's aimed at Arsenal, Liverpool or whoever. It's a very negative quality. Still, if you're happy to run your life in that fashion it's up to you.
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Post by Agadoo on Jan 13, 2011 10:52:10 GMT
Baldy probably hates Dalglish because he was part of the legendary Liverpool side of the 80's which dominated the domestic game while his beloved Man Utd were basic also rans. They were the sick man of football back then while Liverpool romped to title after title, cup after cup.
The thing is Baldy always says it's about winning trophies so he should respect the fact that Dalglish is well decorated as a player and manager, he's won the lot.
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Post by KidInTheRiot on Jan 13, 2011 10:54:29 GMT
Baldy probably hates Dalglish because he was part of the legendary Liverpool side of the 80's which dominated the domestic game while his beloved Man Utd were basic also rans. They were the sick man of football back then while Liverpool romped to title after title, cup after cup. The thing is Baldy always says it's about winning trophies so he should respect the fact that Dalglish is well decorated as a player and manager, he's won the lot. Sad thing is baldy probably didn't support man u back then as they weren't the best side, he probably followed the 'pool!
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Post by baldy on Jan 13, 2011 12:11:41 GMT
2 defeats in 2 games. I thought new managers were meant to have an immediate impact. There cant be many who lose their first two in charge. Liverpool are in total disarray and freefalling into oblivion. What a mess ! This schadenfreude (satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune) from you is quite disturbing Baldy, whether it's aimed at Arsenal, Liverpool or whoever. It's a very negative quality. Still, if you're happy to run your life in that fashion it's up to you. I wouldn't call you a proper fan if you don't revel in a rivals demise. I suppose you will be gutted if we go up and pass Swindon coming down on the way. I wouldn't, that would make my life complete to see them suffer with us out of sight on the horizon. Its not negative, its the tribal instinct in me that wants to see Oxford United be out on their own as the best. No being equal, be the best and ram it right back down their throats. I love seeing Liverpoool getting done at Blackpool and Ipswich doing a job on Arsenal and I will be the first on here to let it be known how I'm enjoying it. You have to enjoy a rival struggling, thats what makes football what it is.
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Post by YellowHoods on Jan 13, 2011 12:36:57 GMT
This schadenfreude (satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune) from you is quite disturbing Baldy, whether it's aimed at Arsenal, Liverpool or whoever. It's a very negative quality. Still, if you're happy to run your life in that fashion it's up to you. I wouldn't call you a proper fan if you don't revel in a rivals demise. I suppose you will be gutted if we go up and pass Swindon coming down on the way. I wouldn't, that would make my life complete to see them suffer with us out of sight on the horizon. Its not negative, its the tribal instinct in me that wants to see Oxford United be out on their own as the best. No being equal, be the best and ram it right back down their throats. I love seeing Liverpoool getting done at Blackpool and Ipswich doing a job on Arsenal and I will be the first on here to let it be known how I'm enjoying it. You have to enjoy a rival struggling, thats what makes football what it is. I WOULD revel in Swindon's demise. That's the point really. Swindon are Oxford's rival, not Liverpool or EDIT - Arsenal. Your response says a bundle.
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Post by baldy on Jan 13, 2011 12:48:17 GMT
I wouldn't call you a proper fan if you don't revel in a rivals demise. I suppose you will be gutted if we go up and pass Swindon coming down on the way. I wouldn't, that would make my life complete to see them suffer with us out of sight on the horizon. Its not negative, its the tribal instinct in me that wants to see Oxford United be out on their own as the best. No being equal, be the best and ram it right back down their throats. I love seeing Liverpoool getting done at Blackpool and Ipswich doing a job on Arsenal and I will be the first on here to let it be known how I'm enjoying it. You have to enjoy a rival struggling, thats what makes football what it is. I WOULD revel in Swindon's demise. That's the point really. Swindon are Oxford's rival, not Liverpool or EDIT - Arsenal. Your response says a bundle. You've got yourself in a right tangle. What, in my response, said a 'bundle' ? I support Oxford (first) and Man U (second). That means I would enjoy the demise of Oxfords main rivals, notably Swindon but also Reading and Luton. With Man U being my second team I also enjoy seeing their rivals, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and Chelsea suffer. Isn't any enjoyment you would get from seeing Swindon implode 'negative' according to you ? I don't get you a lot of the time. You confuse me.
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Post by sihath on Jan 13, 2011 12:53:56 GMT
I WOULD revel in Swindon's demise. That's the point really. Swindon are Oxford's rival, not Liverpool or EDIT - Arsenal. Your response says a bundle. You've got yourself in a right tangle. What, in my response, said a 'bundle' ? I support Oxford (first) and Man U (second). That means I would enjoy the demise of Oxfords main rivals, notably Swindon but also Reading and Luton. With Man U being my second team I also enjoy seeing their rivals, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and Chelsea suffer. Isn't any enjoyment you would get from seeing Swindon implode 'negative' according to you ? I don't get you a lot of the time. You confuse me. It might be the number of Arsenal and Liverpool threads rather than Swindon ones you start that's causing the confusion over who your main team is. I know you're an Oxford fan, I'm only joking.
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Post by Agadoo on Jan 13, 2011 12:54:53 GMT
I wouldn't call you a proper fan if you don't revel in a rivals demise. I suppose you will be gutted if we go up and pass Swindon coming down on the way. I wouldn't, that would make my life complete to see them suffer with us out of sight on the horizon. Its not negative, its the tribal instinct in me that wants to see Oxford United be out on their own as the best. No being equal, be the best and ram it right back down their throats. I love seeing Liverpoool getting done at Blackpool and Ipswich doing a job on Arsenal and I will be the first on here to let it be known how I'm enjoying it. You have to enjoy a rival struggling, thats what makes football what it is. I WOULD revel in Swindon's demise. That's the point really. Swindon are Oxford's rival, not Liverpool or EDIT - Arsenal. Your response says a bundle. *Yawn*
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Post by YellowHoods on Jan 13, 2011 12:57:42 GMT
No Baldy, you choose to make things confusing for others. It's a familiar tactic of yours to deflect attention away from your own idiosyncrasies.
It all comes down to the old chestnut of whether you believe a person can "support" two teams. I don't believe you can hold the same degree of love and affection for two separate clubs. Neither do you, apparently, as you seem able to list Oxford as "first" in your football life.
I have the slightest liking for Hartlepool United, as half my family are from the town. I couldn't give a stuff about Darlington though, even though they're Hartlepool's major rivals. And I would never claim to "support" Hartlepool, even as a second team. When Oxford play them again I want us to win 5-0 and I will hold no affection for them at all on the day.
Feel the rivalry for Swindon, Baldy, as I do, but ignore any second hand rivalries for your second team's opponents.
Now that's a quite straight forward logic that's easy to follow.
PS And ignore Moob's intrusion. He hates it when any thread doesn't involve him as centre of attention.
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Post by sihath on Jan 13, 2011 13:02:33 GMT
There's an argument to be made that any Oxford fan should despise ALL the so-called big teams as their total saturation of the market and huge budgets thanks to Sky means that there are loads of potential local Oxford fans of the future who prefer to follow Man Utd as they are the biggest and best and wouldn't think of following the mighty Oxford.
The likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and loads of others and the money from Sky has meant that we are very unlikely to experience the highs of 3 years in the top flight and a major cup win any time in the near future.
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