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Post by dannyc on Jan 10, 2011 16:49:55 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jan 10, 2011 16:58:32 GMT
To be fair, there is a process called filling in a Statutory Off Road Notification "SORN" form that removes this risk and, even according to the article a fine should be issued before any car is crushed. It's not people who want to store their beloved Morris Minor for a few years before is assumes classic status that have to worry.
The threat is targetted at people who drive around uninsured, often in cars without MOTs.
Seems a pretty reasonable measure to me.
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Post by amarillo on Jan 10, 2011 16:59:43 GMT
has this got anything to do with football?
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Post by Grampsioli.... on Jan 10, 2011 17:01:14 GMT
seems like an excellent idea to me - all you have to do is fill out a SORN form if the car isn't being used after all......
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Post by chris1986 on Jan 10, 2011 17:11:25 GMT
I have a car that I am fixing up as a project which off the road... It is on a SORN, it's not difficult, they even send you a letter when your tax is due telling you how to do it. If you don't tough shit, enjoy your cube.
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Post by amarillo on Jan 10, 2011 17:12:53 GMT
yep agree excellent idea
They aren't just going to crush your car without warning, they will send you a letter first to remind you to fill in the form, then threaten you with action. Anyone who can't or won't complete the necessary paperwork is either an idiot, doesn't have a driving license or they are an illegal immigrant. Can't see why anyone would be against this.
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Post by dannyc on Jan 10, 2011 17:18:18 GMT
seems like an excellent idea to me - all you have to do is fill out a SORN form if the car isn't being used after all...... why should people be forced into having to do that just to store a car in there garage and not use it smacks further government control to me . |
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Post by yellowhood on Jan 10, 2011 17:25:34 GMT
What I find disgusting is the high percentage of UK drivers who don't have tax, insurance or even a licence. These people need stamping on. SORN is one way of minimising abuse.
Bloody government! They'll be expecting us to pay our taxes next!
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Post by Lone Gunman on Jan 10, 2011 17:44:01 GMT
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Post by Grampsioli.... on Jan 10, 2011 18:05:09 GMT
seems like an excellent idea to me - all you have to do is fill out a SORN form if the car isn't being used after all...... why should people be forced into having to do that just to store a car in there garage and not use it smacks further government control to me . you have to fill in a form Danny - you don't have to give them your kidney. Get a grip son........ |
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Post by peterdevo on Jan 10, 2011 18:13:23 GMT
What I find disgusting is the high percentage of UK drivers who don't have tax, insurance or even a licence. These people need stamping on. SORN is one way of minimising abuse.
Bloody government! They'll be expecting us to pay our taxes next!
Agree YH
Can we get you crushed Danny C?
My brother sold his car for £60-00 to be scrapped recently and I saw it being driven in Reading just a week later
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Post by Boogaloo on Jan 10, 2011 20:41:53 GMT
The reason for this is because there are a few tax-dodgers out there who drive to and from the shops uninsured, then when they get a knock on the door say "Oh I haven't driven it for years". I haven't seen a SORN form, but I am guessing there is a section on there for mileage of vehicle, and obviously if the figure you declared is different to what your car says then it's fairly clear the driver is telling porkies and has been driving it illegally, and it's crush time!
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Post by Belgian Yellow on Jan 10, 2011 20:50:10 GMT
These tax dodgers are probably good-for-nothing immigrants so you should be in favour of this Danny. Crush the car, pack everything up in a crate and send it back to wherever it came from.
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Post by fredwest on Jan 10, 2011 22:32:38 GMT
These tax dodgers are probably good-for-nothing immigrants so you should be in favour of this Danny. Crush the car, pack everything up in a crate and send it back to wherever it came from. oh good....i didnt realise the owners would be in the car when it gets crushed...what an excellent idea  ........by the way where can i report my neighbour Mr bangani....his tax disc ran out last month  |
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Post by chris1986 on Jan 10, 2011 22:56:33 GMT
The reason for this is because there are a few tax-dodgers out there who drive to and from the shops uninsured, then when they get a knock on the door say "Oh I haven't driven it for years". I haven't seen a SORN form, but I am guessing there is a section on there for mileage of vehicle, and obviously if the figure you declared is different to what your car says then it's fairly clear the driver is telling porkies and has been driving it illegally, and it's crush time! All you need to fill in a sorn is the registration, the date the sorn starts and the make and model of the car. All it is really is a way of saying "I didn't pay tax on the car because it's not being used" so that they know you didn't just not pay because you're dodging it and driving illegally. If they had to investigate every car with no tax to see if it was just off the road or not then they couldn't send out the automatic fines they do for failing to pay your tax as you could just say "oh it''s off the road so I didn't pay". It's also a way of trying to stop people scrapping bare shells of cars illegally as if you don't register the car as scrapped they send you a sorn renewal every year. |
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Post by fredwest on Jan 11, 2011 0:41:48 GMT
To be fair, there is a process called filling in a Statutory Off Road Notification "SORN" form that removes this risk and, even according to the article a fine should be issued before any car is crushed. It's not people who want to store their beloved Morris Minor for a few years before is assumes classic status that have to worry. The threat is targetted at people who drive around uninsured, often in cars without MOTs. Seems a pretty reasonable measure to me. it wont stop people doing this tho will it?? |
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Post by Sheik Djibouti on Jan 11, 2011 15:20:45 GMT
The reason for this is because there are a few tax-dodgers out there who drive to and from the shops uninsured, then when they get a knock on the door say "Oh I haven't driven it for years". I haven't seen a SORN form, but I am guessing there is a section on there for mileage of vehicle, and obviously if the figure you declared is different to what your car says then it's fairly clear the driver is telling porkies and has been driving it illegally, and it's crush time! All you need to fill in a sorn is the registration, the date the sorn starts and the make and model of the car. All it is really is a way of saying "I didn't pay tax on the car because it's not being used" so that they know you didn't just not pay because you're dodging it and driving illegally. If they had to investigate every car with no tax to see if it was just off the road or not then they couldn't send out the automatic fines they do for failing to pay your tax as you could just say "oh it''s off the road so I didn't pay". It's also a way of trying to stop people scrapping bare shells of cars illegally as if you don't register the car as scrapped they send you a sorn renewal every year. And the law is changing on how you notify that car has been scrapped too. On existing V5's you can tick a box on the log book to say it's been scrapped but all log books issued from August last year don;t have that option and you have to get a Certificate of Destruction from the scrappy (who have to be registered with DVLA to issue them) to prove that it has been scrapped. |
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Post by Agadoo on Jan 11, 2011 15:35:59 GMT
If they came round and said to me 'You haven't got SORN" i'd say "No, but I have got a SORN off Shotgun, and I think this resolves the matter, don't you?"
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Post by peterdevo on Jan 11, 2011 15:54:26 GMT
Especially if your threat is targetted
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Post by malcolmnl on Jan 12, 2011 8:55:00 GMT
has this got anything to do with football? No, thats why it's correctly in the Miscellaneous section. |
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........by the way where can i report my neighbour Mr bangani....his tax disc ran out last month 
