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Post by 'Beav' on Dec 5, 2010 16:42:55 GMT
1 - If petitioned we could say have Row U upwards to be 'known as' the singing area.
People could sit there and not sing but when tickets are sold within that area people are expected to sing and improve the atmos.
2 - Regardless of what happens I'm moving seats next season as close to the middle as possible. I sit about 7 seats from the middle set of steps and I'm hopefully moving up some rows (if possible) but definitely more central. As pointed out by the OU - the left side is pretty crap.
3 - Ideas anyone?
4 - Some people go to Oxford just to enjoy the football and not take part in singing. Fine but why sit near the top of the OM?
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Post by hairy on Dec 5, 2010 17:10:50 GMT
Went for other as i think the only way to improve the om is to have open seating ie sit where you want. This would allow all the people who want to make some noise to congregate together and if thats in the middle at the back then great. A singing area will not work as some of our fans will still want to sit in the middle of it even if their only vocal contribution is to moan and boo, As they "have always sat there and i aint bloody moving". Some of our most miserable fans deludedly believe they are supporting the team/contributing to the atmosphere with their constant moaning so would buy season tickets for a singing area destroying any attempts to create an atmosphere. A sit where you want policy would allow people who wish to help create an atmosphere move towards the loudest area and would eventually become a singing block anyway.
How would the club judge who should be able to buy ST/match day tickets for the singing area? Hold auditions at the ticket office? As entertaining a football fan style x factor would be it is not exactly practical is it? Open seating is the only practical way of improving the atmosphere short of giving out prozac at the turnstiles.
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Post by headlesspnub on Dec 5, 2010 17:23:24 GMT
I guess the way to do it is to have a 'singing area' which covers a certain area and if you want a season ticket in there then it's not numbered, it's sit where you like.
The rest of the OM is number seating as it is, but if you want to sit in a certain area then you can still by a season ticket and a seat is reserved for you, but not a specific one.
If you buy a seat in that area, then you don't have to stand and sing, but everyone else around you is then you can't moan about the standing. Up to you.
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Post by Gavin Archery on Jan 1, 2011 8:36:19 GMT
Performances and results will have more impact on atmosphere in the ground......
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Post by oxontop on Jan 1, 2011 20:30:09 GMT
OMS season tickets have a reserve seat number which is only used when the club announce (when it's a sell-out, so the atmosphere won't be a problem). The rest of the time, sell tickets as if it were a terrace and it's first come first served as to who gets the seats they want, so singers have the chance to get together in a pre-agreed area.
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Post by junior1 on Jan 1, 2011 22:45:29 GMT
I thought the singers were going to try the top right of the east stand?
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Post by 'Beav' on Jan 1, 2011 22:50:30 GMT
This poll was done like in October.
I'm presuming we'll arrange a 'top corner movement' day
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Post by scoob on Jan 1, 2011 22:52:27 GMT
That won't happen. The season tickets outnumber the singers by 20 to one. Part of the reason for buying an ST is so that you know where you are going to sit every game and that seat will be available if you turn up 5 minutes before the game. Change that and the number of STs will reduce significantly.
I have another idea. Maybe thos who pupport to support the team by singing could actually do it for more than ten minutes in a game. I have sat in the SSU a few times recently and when the OMS sing it is fairly loud but this lasts for the first ten minutes then dies out. I accept that a small number sing for much longer but many of those who claim to be Pavarotti in disguise wilt into their seats as soon as things are not going so well on the pitch. We need to all sing for as long as possible even when the going is tough.
Dont blame the acoustics. The Southend fans made a lot of noise most of the game today and there weren't many of them yet they we pretty loud, Our fans can be loud when they want to be so no excuses.
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Post by Ricky Otto on Jan 1, 2011 23:21:48 GMT
Scoob youre misunderstanding the whole problem. We need to group those together that do sing so that those that stop after ten seconds don't stop - they do it through being self conscious but if there were a loud bunch somewhere they wouldn't
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Post by scoob on Jan 1, 2011 23:41:07 GMT
Scoob youre misunderstanding the whole problem. We need to group those together that do sing so that those that stop after ten seconds don't stop - they do it through being self conscious but if there were a loud bunch somewhere they wouldn't I don't agree. Firstly we have to work out a solution that does not involve ST holders losing part of the benefit of their ST. So foget about that as an option as whoever spends energy on this is just wasting their time as it will not happen. A significant number have had those seats since the stadium opened. I would love there to be a singing section but this will not be the solution unless you can speak to the individual ST holders in the section in question and ask them to move their STs. This problem has been discussed on here many times over the last few seasons and solutions have been tried that have not worked. I normally sit in the OMS and even the small groups only sing for the start of the game and often dissapear. The solution is for all of them to keep singing even when everyone else goes quiet or when they do not like what they are seeing on the pitch. For most of the Southend game a small group of their fans kept the singing going (maybe 15 or so) and the rest were pretty spread about but they made a good level of noise. I feel that we should encourage small groups of fans throughout the stand and agree that we will all keep the noise up as much as we can. I am as guilty as anyone, I "sing" as do some around me but I go quiet when I am the only one in earshot. I am sure there are many like me throughout the stand. Part of my problem is that the singing becomes so banal that I can't be bothered to join in (eg too much anti swindon crap which is in no way supportive or the childish Posh Spice prose). Sorry but you all need to think outside the box to solve this problem. |
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Post by oxymoron on Jan 2, 2011 0:39:48 GMT
On the assumption that no one other than ST holders has a seat for the Shrewsbury game, you can look at the online system to see where you might incorporate 80 or so "singing seats" without moving or otherwise inconveniencing 80 ST holders.
1) Right at the back of the right side - seats 138 to 150 in rows Q thru Y has only 4 occupiers
2) Down the front just to the right of the goal - seat 83 to 98 in rows A thru E has 8
3) Seats 19 - 34 in rows A thru F has just 3 and seats 136 thru 150 A thru F has just one occupant.
Choose one and you can petition for an area that the club might be willing to support; (2) gets my vote.....
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Post by oxontop on Jan 2, 2011 9:56:14 GMT
There's a reason those seats are available - the comparatively poor view. I don't think it's fair that people who want to improve the atmosphere should have to sacrifice the presumably better view that they currently have.
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Post by junior1 on Jan 2, 2011 10:04:53 GMT
There's a reason those seats are available - the comparatively poor view. I don't think it's fair that people who want to improve the atmosphere should have to sacrifice the presumably better view that they currently have. That's a fair point but you can't have it bothways... |
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Post by agioliver on Jan 3, 2011 11:31:23 GMT
(1) gets my vote, the view from up there is fine.
I don't agree with you scoobs, grouping singers together will certainly have an effect, it's common sense, and noone will be displaced if ppl go top right.
England games at Wembley and the Arsenal at the Emirates are perfect examples of crap atmosphere, because the diehard are intersperesed with the casual tourist all around the ground, you are left with a ghostly drift of noise that never gets going.
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Post by agioliver on Jan 3, 2011 11:43:52 GMT
'Top corner movement day' sounds good
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Post by Millman on Jan 3, 2011 13:21:40 GMT
A most controversial idea would be to close the north stand to home fans unless the other stands are full. Then move the away fans over to the other end of the north stand. Thus packing our fans closer together and bring the away fans closer.
Still not sure it would work though SSU is full of those type of people who will never sing. Plus the acoustics of out stadium are poor. This only thing it helps with is the fact that usually the stadium is half empty making it all but impossible to drum up some atmosphere.
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Post by scoob on Jan 3, 2011 17:56:33 GMT
(1) gets my vote, the view from up there is fine. I don't agree with you scoobs, grouping singers together will certainly have an effect, it's common sense, and noone will be displaced if ppl go top right. England games at Wembley and the Arsenal at the Emirates are perfect examples of crap atmosphere, because the diehard are intersperesed with the casual tourist all around the ground, you are left with a ghostly drift of noise that never gets going. Of course if you can get a good group in the same place it will help. My point was that trying to get ST holders to move so the group could keep together is a waste of time so I was suggesting alternatives. If a group can get together in an empty part of the stand then we can see if it will work and that would be great. However I still think that individuals/small groups can work if the songs are improved and we all try to keep the noise up. |
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Post by peterdevo on Jan 3, 2011 17:57:50 GMT
How about we organize twelve drummers drumming in each corner of the ground...that will make for some atmosphere
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Post by charliedontsurf on Jan 3, 2011 19:41:44 GMT
There's a reason those seats are available - the comparatively poor view. I don't think it's fair that people who want to improve the atmosphere should have to sacrifice the presumably better view that they currently have. But you do think it's fair that the ST holders sacrifice thier better view that they currently have to let a few people (and their mates and girlfriends) who MAY increase the atmosphere have a better view while they sing a few songs and moan at others that they didn't join in some obscure ditty they have just made up on the spot? Go to the rightside of the OM stand and prove it works before trying to get someone elses seat because you fancy a better view...... OK here's a question for you all, what happens if the club say "yeah great idea we'll allocate 100 seats over on the far left of the North stand"... would people say no?..If so then it proves that all you want is a better view and not to make the atmosphere better |
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Post by hairy on Jan 3, 2011 19:48:08 GMT
If its all about the view for some people wouldnt you be better off in the south stand upper anyway? Been in their a couple of times and the views a lot better than the om.
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