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Post by junior1 on Jul 23, 2010 15:34:38 GMT
Another one has popped Up called free Adam Chapman, some of the posts are awful, saying he should be let out so he can carry on his football with us.
I just hope the group does not take off as it will be a bad slant on chapman...
Also some of the messages to him on his page are cringeworthy as well...
Your thoughts?
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Post by yelloexile on Jul 23, 2010 15:46:06 GMT
Facebook is something I've never joined, so I can only comment as an outsider to it.
Don't people actually post messages saying what a distastefull thing this is? Is there an opportunity to report it?
In the wake of the Moat 'affair', isn't there a danger that people's own actions will eventually end up with it becoming sanitised by default - unless people start using some common sense?
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Post by junior1 on Jul 23, 2010 15:50:54 GMT
I had a look and to be fair 2 people have posted along those lines saying let him serve his time.
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Post by Marked Ox on Jul 23, 2010 15:57:33 GMT
I hope people ignore the site. As those 2 on the site have said, let him serve his time and stop adding insult to the family of the man who sadly lost his life. Chappers has dealt with this situation by accepting his responsibility with far more dignity and respect than the Oxford supporter/s setting up these type of pages.
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Post by junior1 on Jul 23, 2010 16:34:28 GMT
I hope people ignore the site. As those 2 on the site have said, let him serve his time and stop adding insult to the family of the man who sadly lost his life. Chappers has dealt with this situation by accepting his responsibility with far more dignity and respect than the Oxford supporter/s setting up these type of pages. Your last sentance summed it up perfectly... Let chappers serve his time gracefully without these type if groups...
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Post by dabigfella on Jul 23, 2010 16:52:39 GMT
In total agreement Junior.
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Post by rambler on Jul 23, 2010 17:29:20 GMT
Just let Adam Chapman serve his time, and the rest of us show some respect to the family who lost a loved one.
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Post by Scottish Yellow on Jul 23, 2010 18:01:42 GMT
Speaking from experience I've found it much easier to try to forget what happened and get on with the punishment. I just hope people don't hold it against him when he gets out. Everyone's got to Leave him to it and stop these ridiculous facebook pages, they never work, they just show how little class some people have. Chin up Chappy, see you soon.
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Post by windowlicker on Jul 23, 2010 21:40:10 GMT
I wrote him a letter and posted it to his mum last week. She says he will reply so were wait and see,
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Post by oxun on Jul 23, 2010 22:10:17 GMT
I wrote him a letter and posted it to his mum last week. She says he will reply so were wait and see, Probably the best way to show some support if you feel inclined windowlicker, atleast a private letter isnt going to upset the bereaved family unlike the idiots who setup public facebook groups, i know its only a idiot or 2 doing it but i cant help feeling it makes us all look bad
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Post by junior1 on Jul 23, 2010 22:11:41 GMT
roley thats the best way to do it...
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Post by bicesterox on Jul 23, 2010 23:46:50 GMT
Also not a facebook [or any other site of the type] user, would'nt know what to do
But as others have said, let Chapman serve his time without all this bollox. as I see it he has shown genuine remorse and also a mental toughness in getting through last season the way he did. I hope he keeps out of any hassle inside & keeps fit for when he comes out.
But all these facebook type sites will just piss people off and are an embarrassment to him, us , and the club as well as his family.
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Post by junior1 on Jul 24, 2010 7:24:59 GMT
Well put Bicester ox
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Post by Potters Right Boot on Jul 24, 2010 8:45:21 GMT
1 Raoul Moat had one. 2 There are plenty of morons in this country without any moral compass whatosever.
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Post by turkish on Jul 24, 2010 10:35:31 GMT
i cant believe these people crop up online the vast majority of oxford united (and Chappers) fans post on here and other forum and all sing from the same sheet which is one of 'let him serve his sentance and show him support him when he comes back'
but no one on the forums has come on and said they belong to a 'free chappers' group or that they wear the i support oxford and chapman' t-shirts'
is there anyone here that does belong to the above groups? would you care to offer an exlaination to this aggressive type of support ?
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Post by Cardiff Yellow on Jul 24, 2010 11:10:03 GMT
I wouldn't go as far as saying its as bad as people supporting raoul moat online like they did, but at the end of the day somebody died and there should, if anything, be a group dedicated to his memory, and not one trying to show support to the person who killed him.
I'm sure Adam will live with what he's done for the rest of his life and the last thing he needs is sympathy at the moment.
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Post by Agadoo on Jul 24, 2010 19:30:40 GMT
I think Adam Chapman should NOT be in prison. Yes, he's done a bad thing but being incarcerated isn't going to do him any good and won't bring back the poor bloke who copped it. Prison should be there to keep dangerous people off the street, Chapman isn't a danger to anyone, he's deeply remorsefull and I think they should think about a non custodial punishment, say, 500 hours community service and £10,000 fine.
Every day I pick up my paper and read about paedophiles, muggers, robbers and rapists getting a slap on the wrist and being handed down pathetic sentences by our over lenient courts yet these people are real criminals, scumbags who really deserve prison.
The law is an ass in this country and they also talk about prisons being full to bursting point and they want to get less dangerous people out of prison so surely Chapman falls into that catagory?
Sorry if this sounds insensitive but it's reality....
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Post by edgecam on Jul 24, 2010 21:07:20 GMT
i cant believe these people crop up online the vast majority of oxford united (and Chappers) fans post on here and other forum and all sing from the same sheet which is one of 'let him serve his sentance and show him support him when he comes back' but no one on the forums has come on and said they belong to a 'free chappers' group or that they wear the i support oxford and chapman' t-shirts' is there anyone here that does belong to the above groups? would you care to offer an exlaination to this aggressive type of support ? Let me start by stating as a fact I am not a member of any facebook group nor did I purchase the said shirt but I will not be bullied into pretending he does not exist any more. I for one, will not forget the many conversation I personally had with the man or how he made me feel when he played. I was at Burton the last away game of the 2008/9 season and anyone else there will know that very moment he scored. How did you feel? Are we now not allowed to talk about this or about how he was awarded the man of the mach at Wembley by Sir Jeff Hurst. He will serve his time and hopefully come back a stronger person but I will not erase part of mine and Oxford United’s history to bow down to a few on message boards that take the holier-than-thou approach. Let’s stop the bullying if people what to create an account it will either get support or not.
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Post by Scottish Yellow on Jul 24, 2010 22:35:51 GMT
I think Adam Chapman should NOT be in prison. Yes, he's done a bad thing but being incarcerated isn't going to do him any good and won't bring back the poor bloke who copped it. Prison should be there to keep dangerous people off the street, Chapman isn't a danger to anyone, he's deeply remorsefull and I think they should think about a non custodial punishment, say, 500 hours community service and £10,000 fine. Every day I pick up my paper and read about paedophiles, muggers, robbers and rapists getting a slap on the wrist and being handed down pathetic sentences by our over lenient courts yet these people are real criminals, scumbags who really deserve prison. The law is an ass in this country and they also talk about prisons being full to bursting point and they want to get less dangerous people out of prison so surely Chapman falls into that catagory? Sorry if this sounds insensitive but it's reality.... For a start, Chappy has seemed to accept his punishment. good on him. Let him get on with it and hopefully time will fly by. Secondly, I think you'll find the maximum community service hours are anyone can be sentanced is 300, and any amount of fine wont bring back the poor fella that passed away back. Don't get me wrong, as I'm finding, a sentence is there to punish us, how we deal with the sentence makes us. I only hope Chappy has the chance to pass on his experiences and come through this a much stronger person.
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Post by junior1 on Jul 24, 2010 23:47:05 GMT
i cant believe these people crop up online the vast majority of oxford united (and Chappers) fans post on here and other forum and all sing from the same sheet which is one of 'let him serve his sentance and show him support him when he comes back' but no one on the forums has come on and said they belong to a 'free chappers' group or that they wear the i support oxford and chapman' t-shirts' is there anyone here that does belong to the above groups? would you care to offer an exlaination to this aggressive type of support ? Let me start by stating as a fact I am not a member of any facebook group nor did I purchase the said shirt but I will not be bullied into pretending he does not exist any more. I for one, will not forget the many conversation I personally had with the man or how he made me feel when he played. I was at Burton the last away game of the 2008/9 season and anyone else there will know that very moment he scored. How did you feel? Are we now not allowed to talk about this or about how he was awarded the man of the mach at Wembley by Sir Jeff Hurst. He will serve his time and hopefully come back a stronger person but I will not erase part of mine and Oxford United’s history to bow down to a few on message boards that take the holier-than-thou approach. Let’s stop the bullying if people what to create an account it will either get support or not. no one is saying dont have his playing memorys. what im put out by is the messages to him via his fb profile page which are cringe worthy to say the least ( some people even say "goodnight alan" and "thinking of you alan" on a regular basis to him ) and the groups that keep cropping up. as someone mentioned, let chappers serve his time, pay the family of the chap who died the respect they deserve and when he gets released we as fans can give him all the supprt he needs. if you want to offer chappers your support why not put it in writing to him ike roley and others have done.
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