Support of Adam Chapman

[Bampton Beech Boy]

I fully support the club's decision to support Chappers, and hope he can not only come back o be a first team player in a Yellow shirt, but can start to rebuild his life.

But I wonder what was going through the minds of the idiots behind the goal making handcuff gestures at Burton today?. It's unnecessary & offensive & hope it's something we don't see again.

[dabigfella]

Sickos!

[salaghaf]

Aug 7, 2010 20:30:29 GMT Bampton Beech Boy said:

I fully support the club's decision to support Chappers, and hope he can not only come back o be a first team player in a Yellow shirt, but can start to rebuild his life.

But I wonder what was going through the minds of the idiots behind the goal making handcuff gestures at Burton today?. It's unnecessary & offensive & hope it's something we don't see again.

They were clenched fists crossed and raised above their heads.

I thought that it ws a sign of solidarity?

Clenched fists straight out in front of you would be a "handcuff " gesture.

I am not defending them, but,

1) They were only young kids
2) I interpreted it as a sign of solidarity?

[one trick Raponi]

I'm pleased we did a couple of chants for Adam Chapman today. If he'd heard it it would have given his spirits a lift.

I hope in some way it does filter through to him to do just that.

[Lithuanian Disco Power]

Its a sign of solidarity, it know means what he did was right but we must support our player through this hard time for him.

[Bampton Beech Boy]

They were raising their hands above their heads because they wanted people to see what they wered doing, more often than not, when the action was at our end & proabably when they though the TV camera might pick them up.

They are lads of I'd say 13-16. If they want to show support or solidarity for Chappers, I suggest they do it in another method, because what they did today was embarrasing.

Aug 7, 2010 20:39:42 GMT salaghaf said:

Aug 7, 2010 20:30:29 GMT Bampton Beech Boy said:

I fully support the club's decision to support Chappers, and hope he can not only come back o be a first team player in a Yellow shirt, but can start to rebuild his life.

But I wonder what was going through the minds of the idiots behind the goal making handcuff gestures at Burton today?. It's unnecessary & offensive & hope it's something we don't see again.

They were clenched fists crossed and raised above their heads.

I thought that it ws a sign of solidarity?

Clenched fists straight out in front of you would be a "handcuff " gesture.

I am not defending them, but,

1) They were only young kids
2) I interpreted it as a sign of solidarity?

[Lithuanian Disco Power]

Was it f**k for the cameras, was there even a camera pointed at the crowd at the game? And 13-16 is a bit of under estimate.

[Ricky Otto]

It's wrong.End of. I think Adam Chapman is a good guy and regrets what he did but must now serve his punishment.

Any sort of reverence for him is inappropriate given a man, someone's father, and someone's grandfather lost their life because he was dicking around texting.

[Bampton Beech Boy]

It's the sort of thing I'd expect from 13-16 year olds. If those concerned are older, I suggest theytake a step back and think about the deceased's family, or how other people might perceive that gesture today.

It wasn't big, it wasn't clever and it's no way to show support for Adam.

[wispa]

I agree with above, the less said about it the better, no campaign of support for him, just let it be.

[salaghaf]

I understand and appreciate your point of view.

I was stood directly behind them and i personally did not take offence. I found the chanting actually quite a mature gesture (unsure about the hand gestures now). Most young lads today have a selfish/carefree nature - and i was a bit taken aback. I suspect that if Adam was listening to the commentary in Jail then he would have been cheered up a little.

Whatever their motives for the hand gesture, they all certainly seemed to be fully supportive of Adam.

They only did it once though.

[Lone Gunman]

A hard time he has brought on himself through acting like a d!ckhead. A terrible mistake which will live with him forever, but lets not lose sight of the fact that we had a guy here texting on his phone while driving before causing an accident in which someone died.

Lets leave the 'solidarity' thing until he comes out of jail when we can welcome him back into the fold in the proper way, rather than having these constant sporadic outbursts of inappropriate and above all insensitive support for him.

[Dartford Ox]

Aug 7, 2010 21:04:38 GMT salaghaf said:

I understand and appreciate your point of view.

I was stood directly behind them and i personally did not take offence. I found the chanting actually quite a mature gesture (unsure about the hand gestures now). Most young lads today have a selfish/carefree nature - and i was a bit taken aback. I suspect that if Adam was listening to the commentary in Jail then he would have been cheered up a little.

Whatever their motives for the hand gesture, they all certainly seemed to be fully supportive of Adam.

They only did it once though.

Access to Yellow Player on the internet whilst in jail. What planet are you on??

[Scottish Yellow]

Aug 7, 2010 21:18:17 GMT Lone Gunman said:

A hard time he has brought on himself through acting like a d!ckhead. A terrible mistake which will live with him forever, but lets not lose sight of the fact that we had a guy here texting on his phone while driving before causing an accident in which someone died.

Lets leave the 'solidarity' thing until he comes out of jail when we can welcome him back into the fold in the proper way, rather than having these constant sporadic outbursts of inappropriate and above all insensitive support for him.

Lone Gunman,
You've just put the most sensible thing posted on here for days. I fully agree with everything you said and I wish everyone else could be more realistic.

[edgecam]

I just don’t understand some of the views on this thread. As I have said before are we never allowed to talk about the guy? Surely he is being punished and will complete his sentence and then decide what is then best for him. The chant for Adam was based as much on the last time we played there as anything else but yet again people are jumping on the holier-than-thou band wagon. If you don’t want to talk about him don’t but some of us remember with fondness his goal at Burton last time we played there and yes we may want to talk about it and maybe even sing about it, join in if you want don’t if you don’t. I will always be proud to have sponsored him and will again as soon as the opportunity arises. Forgiveness is within just look for it. As for some miss guided youths, they maybe just that, miss guided.

[Agadoo]

Aug 7, 2010 21:18:17 GMT Lone Gunman said:

A hard time he has brought on himself through acting like a d!ckhead. A terrible mistake which will live with him forever, but lets not lose sight of the fact that we had a guy here texting on his phone while driving before causing an accident in which someone died.

Lets leave the 'solidarity' thing until he comes out of jail when we can welcome him back into the fold in the proper way, rather than having these constant sporadic outbursts of inappropriate and above all insensitive support for him.

That's the thing, he made a silly mistake like alot of people do and he's paying a heavy price.

Maybe he was playing we could have won

When you consider those 2 things maybe you can understand why people support him in this way

[witneyellow]

That's the thing, he made a silly mistake like alot of people do and he's paying a heavy price.

If you think that is a heavy price I suggest you think about the price paid by the other guy in the accident and his family! I worked with a couple that lost their daughter to a motorist without their eyes on the road and I assure you the price had lasted a lot longer for them.

I don't want to sound holier than thou - none of us are perfect and we all do things we regret but please let Adam deal with his legal punishment and don't keep stirring things up. He handled himself brilliantly at Wembley and I am sure he now has plenty of time to reflect on his actions. Welcome him back on his release but in the meantime please show a bit more thought for the other family.

[Lone Gunman]

Aug 7, 2010 22:05:50 GMT Agadoo said:

Aug 7, 2010 21:18:17 GMT Lone Gunman said:

A hard time he has brought on himself through acting like a d!ckhead. A terrible mistake which will live with him forever, but lets not lose sight of the fact that we had a guy here texting on his phone while driving before causing an accident in which someone died.

Lets leave the 'solidarity' thing until he comes out of jail when we can welcome him back into the fold in the proper way, rather than having these constant sporadic outbursts of inappropriate and above all insensitive support for him.

That's the thing, he made a silly mistake like alot of people do and he's paying a heavy price.

Maybe he was playing we could have won

When you consider those 2 things maybe you can understand why people support him in this way

This is precisely what i'm talking about. The football issue and whether we like him as a player, or could have won with him, is irrelevant. Its not holier than thou, its the fact that in the simplistic way some of our fans look at things they are missing the fact that he killed someone. If he'd done that other than in a car, even by accident, he'd be serving a f#cksight more than 2 and 1/2 years.

I don't have a problem talking about him. I don't think we should forget about him or not talk of him but its these outbursts of support for him which, though well intentioned and with their heart in the right place, are not taking account of the bigger picture and are theus inappropriate and insensitive to those immediately concerned with the incident.

[Agadoo]

Aug 7, 2010 22:18:30 GMT Lone Gunman said:

Aug 7, 2010 22:05:50 GMT Agadoo said:

That's the thing, he made a silly mistake like alot of people do and he's paying a heavy price.

Maybe he was playing we could have won

When you consider those 2 things maybe you can understand why people support him in this way

This is precisely what i'm talking about. The football issue and whether we like him as a player, or could have won with him, is irrelevant. Its not holier than thou, its the fact that in the simplistic way some of our fans look at things they are missing the fact that he killed someone. If he'd done that other than in a car, even by accident, he'd be serving a f#cksight more than 2 and 1/2 years.

I don't have a problem talking about him. I don't think we should forget about him or not talk of him but its these outbursts of support for him which, though well intentioned and with their heart in the right place, are not taking account of the bigger picture and are theus inappropriate and insensitive to those immediately concerned with the incident.

No, they probably take the view that, like me, he shouldn't be in prison. Prison is for dangerous criminals, murdurers, lowlifes and even these scumbags get handed pathetic sentences. He should do something constructive, work in the community.

[edgecam]

Aug 7, 2010 22:17:25 GMT witneyellow said:

That's the thing, he made a silly mistake like alot of people do and he's paying a heavy price.

If you think that is a heavy price I suggest you think about the price paid by the other guy in the accident and his family! I worked with a couple that lost their daughter to a motorist without their eyes on the road and I assure you the price had lasted a lot longer for them.

I don't want to sound holier than thou - none of us are perfect and we all do things we regret but please let Adam deal with his legal punishment and don't keep stirring things up. He handled himself brilliantly at Wembley and I am sure he now has plenty of time to reflect on his actions. Welcome him back on his release but in the meantime please show a bit more thought for the other family.

So you think I should never mention his name, never talk about him and pretend he does not exist. How is this showing respect, if when he’s released everyone shouts about him and sings his name are you saying respect has a time scale?