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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 9:00:04 GMT
I can imagine the response I'm going to get from this, but given what's happened with our allocation for Burton - our first game of the season, fairly easy away trip on a Saturday, good ground etc. - can ST holders start having less time allocated to them to get their flipping tickets?
The amount sold could probably be shifted in one day, two at the very most.
Three days plus Saturday, and there are still loads available. Time to reduce priviledges Mr McKay? Are ST holders given too much time given the apparent apathy?
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 2, 2010 9:37:58 GMT
Couldn't members (rather than ST holders) get theirs on Saturday? I couldn't get through on the phone the first day they were available, but maybe 2 days would have been enough for ST? Then members on Friday and open sale on Sat? Would only have been 1 day different though.
It would have been better is there could have been more time over all - but there is still plenty of time for everyone to get a ticket I'd have thought.
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Post by edgecam on Aug 2, 2010 10:08:15 GMT
I can imagine the response I'm going to get from this, but given what's happened with our allocation for Burton - our first game of the season, fairly easy away trip on a Saturday, good ground etc. - can ST holders start having less time allocated to them to get their flipping tickets? The amount sold could probably be shifted in one day, two at the very most. Three days plus Saturday, and there are still loads available. Time to reduce priviledges Mr McKay? Are ST holders given too much time given the apparent apathy? I think I said this when you first posted this message, what is the problem? As it stands, Non season ticket holders have 3 days to get their tickets assuming Wednesday is the last day for posting tickets. If collected they have 5 days if any are still available. I do not understand the problem. |
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 13:27:40 GMT
What it boils down to is that I feel that there are those of us who are non-ST holders who go to quite a few away games that can lose out with the system and timings we have. Obviously not a problem this time, but I think there could be a better way, and the system we have should be allowed to be challenged, particularly if there are other options. E.g. www.bcfc.com/page/AwayDetail/0,,10412~2026991,00.html I'm not saying that is perfect, but I'm sure other clubs have different options - I think we are fairly unusual as we do have a relatively strong away support. Edit - the BCFC system relates to ST Holder priority (and where they hold a record) - certainly not perfect. |
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Post by Volehead on Aug 2, 2010 13:32:40 GMT
What it boils down to is that I feel that there are those of us who are non-ST holders who go to quite a few away games that can lose out with the system and timings we have. Obviously not a problem this time, but I think there could be a better way, and the system we have should be allowed to be challenged, particularly if there are other options. E.g. www.bcfc.com/page/AwayDetail/0,,10412~2026991,00.html I'm not saying that is perfect, but I'm sure other clubs have different options - I think we are fairly unusual as we do have a relatively strong away support. have you tried buying a season ticket, or ring up using the number of somebody that has 1 that isn't going??? I have 2 ST's each year and don't do many away games and have helped several people in the past to get tickets - to save the wait |
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Post by edgecam on Aug 2, 2010 13:45:38 GMT
Yelloexile, thus would not help you as you are not a season ticket holder. The rules seam clear you need to be a season ticket holder first and formost. Season ticket holders should and will always continue to have first dabs on away tickets. Can I ask if you get to so many away games why worry clearly the ticketing is working?
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 13:48:09 GMT
What it boils down to is that I feel that there are those of us who are non-ST holders who go to quite a few away games that can lose out with the system and timings we have. Obviously not a problem this time, but I think there could be a better way, and the system we have should be allowed to be challenged, particularly if there are other options. E.g. www.bcfc.com/page/AwayDetail/0,,10412~2026991,00.html I'm not saying that is perfect, but I'm sure other clubs have different options - I think we are fairly unusual as we do have a relatively strong away support. have you tried buying a season ticket, or ring up using the number of somebody that has 1 that isn't going??? I have 2 ST's each year and don't do many away games and have helped several people in the past to get tickets - to save the wait I used to be an ST holder, but can't due to personal circumstances - I do have ST holding friends, and can often rely on their help, but not always. Ultimately, I do agree that ST holders should be given something, but then the loyal away supporters should also have a chance. The membership scheme does help, but with the Burton game, it was very limited and very much an afterthought - not much of an incentive to fork out and join up. |
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 13:55:49 GMT
Yelloexile, thus would not help you as you are not a season ticket holder. The rules seam clear you need to be a season ticket holder first and formost. Season ticket holders should and will always continue to have first dabs on away tickets. Can I ask if you get to so many away games why worry clearly the ticketing is working? The ticketing is working despite the way it's done, the rush (sometimes people need to arrange travel in advance), the pressure on the ticket office staff etc. I just think it could be smoother, that's all - it often seems too last minute, with ST holders having a disproportionate amount of time. In the case of Burton, I relied on a mate before realising how rubbish the ST support was. I can just see this being a pain in the proverbial, say for a game like Wycombe - to me, we should already be selling tickets for that one, and that membership for it to be really successful, should give more priority than a few hours on a Saturday. |
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Post by edgecam on Aug 2, 2010 14:00:50 GMT
I agree Wycombe is going to be a bun fight. This is the game I expect to sell out to season ticket holders. Good luck if I have a spare ST I'll let you know.
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Post by Ricky Otto on Aug 2, 2010 15:19:05 GMT
have you tried buying a season ticket, or ring up using the number of somebody that has 1 that isn't going??? I have 2 ST's each year and don't do many away games and have helped several people in the past to get tickets - to save the wait I used to be an ST holder, but can't due to personal circumstances - I do have ST holding friends, and can often rely on their help, but not always. Ultimately, I do agree that ST holders should be given something, but then the loyal away supporters should also have a chance. The membership scheme does help, but with the Burton game, it was very limited and very much an afterthought - not much of an incentive to fork out and join up. You need to get over this. I was a season ticket holder last year primarily so i could get tickets for the big games. This season Im not so I have to wait in turn. Deal with it. Season ticket holders give more money to the club so they deserve priority. If you have personal circumstances im sorry to hear it, but they cant change a very VERY fair system to suit you. |
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 2, 2010 15:27:23 GMT
I used to be an ST holder, but can't due to personal circumstances - I do have ST holding friends, and can often rely on their help, but not always. Ultimately, I do agree that ST holders should be given something, but then the loyal away supporters should also have a chance. The membership scheme does help, but with the Burton game, it was very limited and very much an afterthought - not much of an incentive to fork out and join up. You need to get over this. I was a season ticket holder last year primarily so i could get tickets for the big games. This season Im not so I have to wait in turn. Deal with it. Season ticket holders give more money to the club so they deserve priority. If you have personal circumstances im sorry to hear it, but they cant change a very VERY fair system to suit you. Fully agree with this, it is one of the benefits of risking paying all your money upfront even if the season can be a dud, like the relegation year to BSP was! Yelloexile, surely you should be happy with the ST holder apathy if you want to go as it means plenty of available tickets?! |
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 15:30:29 GMT
OK, I'll not ask for opinions on the current system, and if it could be improved for us and the ticket office in future then!
If club membership offered more time to purchase tickets, I'd buy in, giving more revenue for the club.
Going down the route of 'ST holders give more money' is unfair. If I added up the 10+ home games I go to at full price, programmes, the shirt (I have bought one this year), 12th Man, I'm probably up to being close to giving the club a fair amount of money per match attended compared to an ST holder.
So be it.
I've not argued that ST priority be taken away at all - just that the timing be looked at as well as the deal for membership?
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 2, 2010 15:35:56 GMT
Obviously the timing of the sale of away tickets is governed by when the tickets arrive from the other club. And I don't think we know when the Burton tickets actually arrived?
I also wonder whether the Man U XI game (where every single ticket had to be bought as no STs) delayed matters as it was felt the ticket office might get overloaded with both on sale at the same time.
It will be interesting to see when the Wycombe tickets go on sale - I'd hope no later than early next week, then people can pick them up at the Bury game.
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 15:38:24 GMT
If I was just out for myself, yes. The Wycombe game MAY be different - but then again, will our fans still not give a monkey's?
I'm disappointed with the apathy from our ST holders for our season opener. I'm happy that there are a fair amount available, but as per my post above, it's more about the timings and benefits of membership.
I just think it could be a bit better for us and the ticket office.
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Post by YellowJ on Aug 2, 2010 15:53:45 GMT
We only had 3 days to get Burton tickets and there was no prior notification of this on the official site. If I hadn't seen they were going on sale on here I wouldn't have known. It's hardly apathy.
Also, what makes you think season ticket holders don't contribute to the club like you? We buy shirts, contribute to the 12th man, buy programmes and 50-50 tickets for 23 home games, and also pay for pre-season and cup games.
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 16:03:13 GMT
We only had 3 days to get Burton tickets and there was no prior notification of this on the official site. If I hadn't seen they were going on sale on here I wouldn't have known. It's hardly apathy. Also, what makes you think season ticket holders don't contribute to the club like you? We buy shirts, contribute to the 12th man, buy programmes and 50-50 tickets for 23 home games, and also pay for pre-season and cup games. You are twisting my words. The response was to a comment that ST holders give more money to the club than non ST holders. I don't think that's necessarily true for everyone - we're all different. Anyway, if it was purely on money, box holders should be first, then ST holders, then the thousands of us left! |
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Post by edgecam on Aug 2, 2010 16:03:28 GMT
I just see how it can be changed or why if the truth be know.
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Post by yelloexile on Aug 2, 2010 16:05:36 GMT
BTW, I assume then that going back to my first post, that ST holders should still be given three full days to buy the tickets they did?
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Post by YellowJ on Aug 2, 2010 16:16:40 GMT
BTW, I assume then that going back to my first post, that ST holders should still be given three full days to buy the tickets they did? Yes, I would say that it's fair to allow 70% of your home fans to have the same time to purchase tickets in advance of the other 30%. |
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Post by yellowweeble on Aug 2, 2010 17:03:56 GMT
ST's should always get first dibs. How long they get to buy tickets will always cause debate. Defo think the Man utd game had something to do with it.
As for Burton tickets still being left it is worth bearing in mind that lots will be going to the Carling cup game, Wycombe is only 10 days later and add in it's the middle of the school holidays and I thunk you've got your answer - how many can afford to do Burton?
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